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Maybe it would make sense downloading movies if I had a T-1 connection. A couple of years ago I upgraded to DSL (the cheapest option $40/mo) with download speed around 300kps. I could upgrade to a faster connection but the price is too much. At best, it would take me 3hrs to download a 568MB Dvix file on my current connection. The same file would take 48min to download on a T-1 connection. T-1 service cost $350-1200/mo.


I have 3.5Mbps cable ($45) and can download 600MB in 30 minutes.

Why would you want a T1? Maybe T3.


That's not bad. Comcast would be my provider. It would cost $60.00 for a service comparable to yours which is still too much. Plus, I'm not too fond of the cable modem access.

Steven Hoober

I admit that I sometimes bittorrent a new tv show. This has always been because we forgot to record it, or there was a storm knocking the dish around and it was badly corrupted. Hence, I consider it fair use, just consuming it as originally intended and only shortly thereafter.

So, I've downloaded full quality video and then watched it on my TV monitor. Presumably, any commerical service will be about as fast as a good bittorrent download. This takes hours, so I tend to leave it downloading overnight, or while I am at work. This is okay, but only if people can be made to understand it. Like, you don't download, but queue for download, and get the video later on (not dissimilar from NetFlix mailing you things, but faster).

Quality is top notch, but only Divx is worth it. The various Windows media formats are, well, variable. So I can't tell till I play it how well it was encoded. And, serious player problems. Can't scroll, 90% of pauses in the middle will cause it to never re-display video on un-pause, etc.

Divx is the clear winner. So, the MS solution will presumably become the de facto standard.


ugh, windows media! it's awful. why does anyone encode for it? like SH says above, scrolling never works right, the picture comes and goes, and it's crashy on slow computers. but i never have a problem with divx. i've reassociated as many file types as i can from wm player to the divx player, and would never go back. of course, quicktime beats everything.

"That's not bad. Comcast would be my provider. It would cost $60.00 for a service comparable to yours which is still too much. Plus, I'm not too fond of the cable modem access."

Comcast & Knology in mya rea and both about $45. I guess you do not have Cable TV, hence the $60 - still a good price for speed.

But, back on topic. WinMedia, yuck. I'd rather have Divx. But I can soo how people associate it with piracy.

There is a story over at BroadbandReports about how "Nearly Half of Americans Think P2P Should be Outlawed". "Those most in favor of outlawing the technology were older than fifty years of age, and most commonly lived in the Western or Southern states."

They just don't see what it is or how it works. They get too set in their ways and think anything new MUST be bad!



"Divx is the clear winner. So, the MS solution will presumably become the de facto standard."


Where is Yoda when we need him: "That way lies the Dark

I will use DivX. The industry will fight it, and we
will end up staying right where we are: they will
encrypt it into XXXX then we will crack it and encode it
as DivX.

There just isn't a better standard defined right now,
for downloadable-sized movies.

Microsoft: Just do what we say, and nobody gets hurt.


I use Divx all the time. Great for making backups of DVDs so you don't scratch the original...and, since I now have a streaming media server I can stream Divx movies from my PC to my TV/entertainment system.

In the other room, I have an inexpensive Philips DVD player that plays Divx.

Windows Media Player is way behind as far as DVD goes. Divx is the clear choice.

On a related note, did you notice both EMI and Sony/BMG are trying again at CD encryption? Here's the story: http://tinyurl.com/9q6kn

What this means for me is simple: I will never again buy a physical CD (not from EMI or Sony/BMG anyway), even if I *can* crack the copy protection. I've got over 500 CD's, all legally paid for, and ripped onto my PC for use with my iPod. From now on, I'll just buy from the iTunes music store and be done with it. They're really shooting themselves in the foot with this one. Thowing the baby out with the bathwater, and any other cliches that may or may not be appropriate..................

To they guy who downloads the tv eps. You probably watch them in XviD not DivX. In my experience, DivX gives a muched smoothed out picture with loss in detail. Now HDTV encoded in XviD with a good custom matrix, that is an orgasmic picture.

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