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Is it illegal to download tv shows? I feel that when a company broadcasts for free something nationwide they are giving up certain rights.


I think that they must view this as an illegal redistribution, and not
"fair use".

One other factor driving this: you guessed it --> Money!

The studios are making a ton off TV shows on DVD. This is a
growing sector.

This seems to be the line-in-the-sand. If you come between
the studios and their money, then you had better watch out!

(and I say "you" where I mean "I". A typical psych game. Take care)


I think they (content owners) consider any downloading to be illegal by virtue of their content being redistributed. The downloading is an afterthought. It's the act of redistribution without permission they seek penalties for.


Though the way BT works, you only upload small slices of the file to each person. So is it illegal to distribute 2 minutes of a television show?



If it costs them money, then they will call it illegal, and
work backwards from there.

Sleazy, but there it is.

Wow, some people are actually paying to be taught how to use p2p.How stupid can you be?

"Wow, some people are actually paying to be taught how to use p2p.How stupid can you be?"

Actually, the MPAA/RIAA are paying to teach people to use p2p. Every DRM system, every copy protection scheme, every propaganda commercial against piracy is teaching more people the benefits of downloading for free.

The more they tighten their grip, the more computer systems slip through their fingers.


If more TV shows had legal downloads available, or even rebroadcast their episodes a second time in the week they aired, these sites wouldn't be so popular. There are a lot of shows where you really can't miss one episode -- Lost, Prison Break, 24, etc., and if you miss the initial episode you have no chance to catch it again on TV for weeks, months, or until the show goes into syndication years later.

I would always prefer to watch episodes on TV, but sometimes things happen -- you screw up your VCR/DVR, it screws up on its own, the power goes out, the cable goes out, your local station does something stupid that messes up the transmission (witness the recent Spanish Desperate Housewives ep in LA), your local station preeempts the episode for sports, etc.

Something like the $2 download ABC is offering with some of its shows are perfect for this. It will never be my first choice on how to get an episode, but it's great to know it's there.

If that's not an option, which would the network prefer -- that someone download one episode to catch up, or quit watching the show altogether out of frustration?

I also bet illegal downloading is much more prevalent with network shows that are catch-it-or-miss-it than it is with cable (premium or basic) shows, which give you several chances to watch them shortly after they first air.

The lack of legal alternatives (with the exception of ABC's iPod shows) reminds me of the music industry dragging its feet on making legal downloads available for reasonable prices and terms of use. If they had been ahead of the curve instead of so far behind it, the illegal file-sharing services wouldn't have become so popular. It would be nice if they spent half as much time coming up with legal alternatives as they do filing lawsuits and holding press conferences.


"The more they tighten their grip, the more computer systems slip through their fingers."

Precious! LOL! Too true!

Joel Risberg

Keep in mind that Google ads like those you saw are fed to sites automatically based on the client site's content. Like thousands of other sites, TVGuide just provides the space and lets Google manage what goes there. It's very unlikely TVGuide exercised any editorial control over those specific advertisers, so don't take their presence as any sort of approval. If anyone were in a position to screen those advertisers it would be Google.

"The MPAA is suing people for illegally downloading movies, "


The MPAA, and indeed the RIAA have NEVER sued anyone for downloading. they sue for uploading (distributing). It is not possible to sue for downloading


This might get a little confusing, as with Torrents, eveyone downloading is uploading.

N'est-ce pas?

Bob, with torrents most people downloading are not uploading, and with newsgroups, still a larger source than torrents, 99% are not uploading at all.

You can't get sued for downloading, and most people are not uploading a thing..

I thought with torrents you couldnt block uploads. I thought it was the "orgy" of file sharing (giving and sharing...lol)


Yeah .... orgy....



Did they make this big a deal when people were using a VCR?

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