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roklobsta

so then why are they not suing the file sharing companies?

probably because file sharing companies have money and can fight back... thus making it not as easy of a win for them. why go after the big guy when you can scare the crap out of the little guy... and get a few bucks to boot!

Hunter McDaniel

Please stop suggesting that they sue the file-sharing companies. File-sharing is a general-purpose technology for sharing information. In addition to its legitimate purposes, it can be used to break the law. Just as a kitchen-knife can be used to stab someone, but we don't go after the manufacturer.

CJ

I learned years ago to hold down the "shift" key whenever I spinup any commercial Audio CD or Movie DVD on my computer. This simple procedure keeps any auto-run program on the CD or DVD from running and possibly installing something you don't want on your computer.

You then open up whatever application you use to play the CD or DVD (i.e. music player or DVD player) and use the player software to point to the CD or DVD drive to just play the audio or movie.

Lets talk about the real victims here. It's not Disney, Miramax, Paramount. It's the porn companies. I mean the major studios say they loose billions are year. I wonder what porn studio loose per year in file sharing.

Zach

"so then why are they not suing the file sharing companies?"

For the same reason they don't sue companies that sell guns, knives, or pointy sticks.

Actually people do sue the gun makers, so many in fact that congress is passing a law that will shield them from frivorous lawsuits. Much in the same way the are passing (passed?) a law to protect fast food makers from being sued when people get too fat!

But I agree:
guns & gun makers don't kill - people do.
cars don't kill - stupid drivers do.
McDs doesn't make you fat - people eating it 3x a day, every day does.

But they (driver, shooter, the eater) don't have the deep pockets so they go after the ones that do. Trying to get rich quick.

I will NEVER buy another Sony product

My DVD and CD collection consists of over 900 discs, all of which were purchased through places such as Deep Discount CD and Deep Discount DVD. I do not pirate anything and never will but I am VERY tempted to do just that if it involves Sony.

To the BASTARDS at Sony; As far as I am concerned you can not only kiss the money I would have spent on your products goodbye, you can also kiss my ass!

Btw...if I find your crap software on my computer I will damn sure find a law firm that handles class-action cases and start a lawsuit that hopefully will put a HUGE dent in your bottom line.

Well, I guess this is another Good Reason (tm) to watch DVDs via Linux - unless of course that DVD is 'Hitch'. No auto-play for linux - however, also no playing ARCCOS-protected movies.

"I learned years ago to hold down the "shift" key whenever I spinup any commercial Audio CD or Movie DVD on my computer. This simple procedure keeps any auto-run program on the CD or DVD from running and possibly installing something you don't want on your computer."

Too awkward. Just use Tweak UI and disable AutoPlay on all optical drives. Better yet, get a Mac and you won't have to worry about mal-ware installed without your knowledge.

Jason

I'm weary of the whole "suing their customers" line. It's overused and is heavy spin promoting victimization of those who the RIAA or MPAA are seeking retribution for damages. If they were indeed litigating against more than say 1% of consumers (if we're even that high) there'd be an uproar. Not that the current state of defiance is without merit.

Off Topic

It's upsetting to see that BBO has Everybody Loves Raymond: Season 5 set so you can "Save" it to your queue, while it's nowhere to be found on Netflix.

The main reason I switched to netflix was because, at the time, they had many movies/tv series/etc that you could "save" and blockbuster had none.

If this keeps up, time to go back to BBO.

They all throttle. Why not just charge $1.33 per dvd and lets call it a day.

CJ

ORIGINAL POST: "I learned years ago to hold down the "shift" key whenever I spinup any commercial Audio CD or Movie DVD on my computer. This simple procedure keeps any auto-run program on the CD or DVD from running and possibly installing something you don't want on your computer."

REPLY: "Too awkward. Just use Tweak UI and disable AutoPlay on all optical drives. Better yet, get a Mac and you won't have to worry about mal-ware installed without your knowledge."

REPLY to REPLY: The average PC computer user is clueless about Tweak UI tools, and doesn't know how to disable autoplay in the drive properties, so I suggested a simple, non-technical way to disable CD/DVD autoplay.

"Lets talk about the real victims here. It's not Disney, Miramax, Paramount. It's the porn companies. I mean the major studios say they loose billions are year. I wonder what porn studio loose per year in file sharing."

NOTHING, that's what they lost. Most people aren't lame enough to go down to some seedy area of town to buy porn. They just download it from eDonkey or BitTorrent. I hesitate to go in most shops that rent or sell XXX DVDs, because they are frequented by low-lifes. It would also worry me if the last person that rented the DVD had washed their hands after, you know, "watching." Getting porn online, I don't have to risk getting my hands "dirty." You make a good point that people do get a lot of porn online. But the fact is they are even less likely to have bought it in real life than the people downloading Hollywood movies.

"The average PC computer user is clueless about Tweak UI tools, and doesn't know how to disable autoplay in the drive properties, so I suggested a simple, non-technical way to disable CD/DVD autoplay."

If they watched ZDTV/TechTV/whatever, they would know about it. If they read tweaking sites like PC PitStop, they would know. It isn't that hard to disable auto-play. It's something that should be standard protocol.

Lost revenues can really be "lost revenues" if I had means to purchase it in the first place. If I never intended to buy the movie for 20$, the company never lost a sale. I do have means, however to buy a 100 DVD-r pack for 25$.

"Lost revenues can really be ... if I had means to purchase it in the first place."

Whether you had the means is irrelevant. It only matters whether you intended to buy it for the price they intended to sell it. It's very simple supply-and-demand economics. If the market isn't stupid enough to pay $10 or more for DVDs, then they haven't lost a sale if people turn around and copy the movie or download it from p2p. Most piracy is more a matter of a gained sale - people copy or get something online that they never would have gone to the trouble of buying, at any price. The kind of movie they wouldn't even want to admit that they watched or liked.

FileShare

Don't sue the file sharing compaines, because it's legitimate. Just like you wouldn't sue a knifemaker, gunmaker, etc.

Um, file sharing may have orignally had its purpose in sharing non-copyrighted files in office settings, but clearly the old Napster, Kazaa, LimeWire, etc. are not used for these purposes.

The right to own a gun is a constitutional amendment, the right to break copyright law is not.

Filesharing companies specifically allow you to search for music by artist etc, and also for movies by actor, studio, etc., pc software, etc.

If they were not created for these purposes, they would not have embedded search functions for this software.

No one goes on LimeWire to download "Mozilla" ok. Of the millions of people who use the software, I'd like to see the numbers that SOLELY use it for legal purposes....

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