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Do we need any more proof that DRM is purely about creating a burden on the average consumer? It is definitely NOT about stopping the large scale pirating operations, because they're produce software that bypasses these restrictions anyway. DRM like this is merely an attack on the average consumer's fair use protections.

Eventually one of these media companies is going to catch on and offer DRM encumbered content at a discount while significantly increasing the price of content with less DRM. At that point only the rich will be able to have fair use, which is the way they like it.

Rusty Ramrod

I wouldn't be too worried about ProtectDISC. I quick glance at their web site reveals 7 spelling errors on the front page alone. Not the mark of a professional company.

I won’t launch off into my usual tirade about DRM. Suffice to say all it does is piss customers off. It has absolutely no effect on the mass duplicators. DRM has never been able to stop that and never will, ever.


Is that fair to college students or people who use their computer for their media center? This has gotta make HP, Dell and other PC makers extremely mad.


Seems like a meaningless protection scheme to me. You just rip the DVD to your hard drive (removing all the protection stuff) using any number of readily available software, play the movie on your PC, then delete the files. If this ProtectDisc become popular, someone will probably make a software PC DVD player that does this all in one step - i.e. automatically deletes the decoded files.

I would be surprised if any Judge would rule against you in a MPAA lawsuit even though technically you're circumventing the protection, in reality you're decoding for personal playback, since your home theater is PC based, not a stand-alone DVD-based system. And your purpose is not even to make a backup copy for any reason.

Hunter McDaniel

It wasn't clear to me from what I read if this was a real DRM scheme that the studios were planning to deploy (like ARCCOS), or just a technology that some company has developed and put out a press release, and then hopes to license to the studios.

And I also don't see any reason why companies with a legitimate DVD CCA license couldn't update their Windows DVD players for the Media Center market to accomodate such discs - they just have to access the disc via direct sector addressing rather than use the (bogus) UDF filesystem. Indeed, what are standalone DVD players other than simple cheap one-purpose computers? And of course the authors of ripping tools can do the same without such a license.


ARccOS isn't DRM. It uses bad sectors to stop people from making 1:1 copies. It has already been defeated, because the newer rippers just copy what the player actually reads. This new scheme does not sound very credible. They say it can't be copied 1:1. That doesn't mean you can't make a perfect copy. It just means that you can't rip to ISO and burn directly. Their system will fall, like ARccOS and every other DRM scheme. If you can read it, you can copy.


Maybe what they should do is produce 2 disks?...one that plays only on a dvd player and 1 that plays on a computer. The cost of pressing a dvd is so small. You could even allow someone to buy a dvd at a retail store and allow them to download it for free online.

Rusty Ramrod

"Maybe what they should do is produce 2 disks?..."

How about they just produce the discs DRM and corruption free?

Then they only need to have one disc. The professional pirates will continue to copy and distribute as they are now after they bypass the DRM, the people who believe in Fair Use will continue to be able to use them as they wish only without being criminals each time they bypass the DRM, and Mom and Pop won't be surprised by the evil DRM snake bite that leaves them with their heads cocked sideways like an inquisitive dog.


"How about they just produce the discs DRM and corruption free?"

Yes, I had heard that the movie studios were considering this option.


I see they are trying to kill the dvd in a pc, gee what if this your only player. studio suck.


They should just forget about DRM. This protection is about the stupidest ones I have ever heard. I'm getting a new laptop and one of the things I want to be able to do is play a DVD on it. If I get a disc protected like this then I will take it back to the store and claim that the disc is defective. I'll take my laptop with me just to prove it.


I just joined this forum and am intrigued at what I read. I have a disk that plays OK in my DVD player, but my Plextor DVD player in my computer does not recognize that there is a disk present. Is this the same thing you are talking about? Although if my computer DVD player doesn't recognize a disk present, then there isn't anything for me to work with. Money down the drain I guess.
On the plus side....it gives us something to work on and overcome.


I just canceled my membership to NetFlix because of that retarded DRM playback crap. The paying customers are getting ripped off and should all cancel right away.

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At that point only the rich will be able to have fair use, which is the way they like it.

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