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usermonster

Wow.

I love how it's part of the regular membership price; Netflix's version of BB's Total Access.

If there were only a way to stream the video to my TV, I'd dump BB and come back home to Netflix.

scotty321

Without Mac OS X support, this gets a big THUMBS DOWN from me.

Aron

Good scoop Mike!

peter

No thanks...my desire to forsake my big widescreen, 5.1 speakers & recliner for a 21" square monitor, 2 small speakers & a desk chair is limited.

corey3rd

so the key is to pick short features so you don't burn up your time. Although it stinks that you'll get billed for the 8 minutes of end credits.

danb

I watch half of the movies I rent on my laptop anyway. For no additional cost and [hopefully] no queue penalty I'll have to at least try it. The slow roll out sucks but I guess it's better than a full roll out before the infrastructure is fully tested.

Edward R Murrow

This is so incredible that I invited 10 friends over so we could all stand in a single file in front of the computer monitor! This lasted for about 30 seconds then we went over to my big screen plasma HDTV and I downloaded "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" in HD from Comcast in less than 15 seconds. Jessica Rabbit is so hot in HD.

funnythinghappened

Oh, Edward. We all know you don't have 10 friends. Your infatuation with Jessica Rabbit is entirely believable, though.

Lamarr Wilson

Great scoop Mike; I look forward to seeing this in action! I was hoping for a Netflix/Tivo deal, but this is great too. I have a 20Mbps connection so I intend on using it!

Edward R Murrow

No, no, seriously. We passed the bowl of popcorn forwards in the line then once it got to the person in front, s/he had to go to the back of the line and everyone else shifted forward towards the computer screen. I'm selling the big screen plasma HDTV on eBay tomorrow so I can watch all my content on a computer screen from now on.

If this is the download strategy from Netflix then someone please stick a fork in 'em. Or perhaps they've just forked themselves?

smgpugfaw

---If there were only a way to stream the video to my TV, I'd dump BB and come back home to Netflix.---

There are *plenty* of ways available now that vary in effectiveness and cost if you just look around.

I'm still mulling over the choices/need for it, but in the meantime I'm using my Nintendo Wii browser.

Certainly a low rent solution that's far from perfect at this point, but while some people just complain about the idea of watching streaming media on a PC, my family streams media to the big screen in the family room. It cost me nothing at this point (aside from the Wii, which we have anyway) and gives me time to play with the idea until I commit to a more permanent (and better) solution.

Yay me!

Flibberman

*"stinks that you'll get billed for the 8 minutes of end credits"*

If you don't watch the credits, you won't lose the time. It only counts the time you've spent watching, you can fast forward or simply click STOP and your time won't be wasted.

Did they randomly pick subscribers to test this out? Or was it just NetFlix staff? Anybody here get the test trial?

hueristix

where's mine? I would love to use this as a preview function to see what I really want in my queue or not. The price is right. Again they have come up with an intriguing business model; per minute charges.

It is really easy to get your computer image on a tv- and sound to your surround amp- where have you ppl been, Slovakia?

Comcast downloads are great if you dont mind paying $7 per movie. Nothing's perfect but I am glad to see Netflix jump in to the fray. where's mine?

grantlairdjr

Looks interesting...

Wonder if it support closed captioning or subtitle? Can you find out?

gwlj

junkfood

Good point, hueristix. I could definitely see myself using my hours in 10-15 minute chunks to preview movies. Now that I've dropped down to a 2 disc plan, I'm a little more careful about what I put at the top of my queue. Watching the first 10 minutes of "Road House 2" will help me decide whether it's so bad it's funny or is it just horrible.

JW

It's completely irritating that these companies are stupid enough to think that pc downloads are something special. I cannot believe Netflix went this route and hasn't rolled out a set top box yet.

Let's see, 21" LCD monitor vs 50" LCD HDTV flat panel. Wonder which one I'm going tow atch movies on. Frackin ridiculous. Give me a box, I'll pay more every month, I just want to watch downloads on my TV!!!!

Kevin

---If there were only a way to stream the video to my TV, I'd dump BB and come back home to Netflix.---

There are plenty. If you're willing to spend money on a set top box from Netflix, then you could buy a TV-out card for your PC, buy a Slingbox that streams your PC video to your TV, etc. etc. etc. Just about any decent video card these days comes with TV out so it isn't a stretch to get it connected.

Hunter McDaniel

The main attraction (for me at least) is using this feature for extended previews. After that, I'd rather wait for the real disc.

But 1000 titles isn't many. Since most of my viewing is back catalog stuff, they are going to have to obtain licensing for a whole lot more before I'll get much usefulness from this.

McDahling

This is awesome, I honestly don't see what all you whiners are complaining about. They aren't charging any extra fee for this service. And you know if they download to computer, or set-top box, there would be a substantial charge. I find this very nice and really convenient. It takes a day to get a movie, and half of the time I regret getting it cause it is a piece of crap, this way I can see if I like it. Also, this is good if I want to see if a movie is purchase worthy. And considering iTunes only has 250, I am very thankful for the 1000 Netflix has.

TenHanger

If you have Windows Media Center edition on your PC, and then you have a media extender (Viiv or Windows Media Extender), can't you just use your remote on your "extended" TV to play the Netflix movies on you giant screens?

CJ


Bet Netflix won't be rolling this out to us 8 out at a time customers for quite a while. However, I sure would like to see how it works on the computer I currently use for rented DVDs - it has a 24" WS LCD monitor and also a 5 mps internet connection. Rented DVDs look like High Def using the PowerDVD player. I'm curious to see what the NF Watch Now definition would look like on that computer...

danb

Come off your high horse, people. Netflix and others are entertaining the idea that Microsoft and Apple are working to make the PC a media hub as well as a word processor. If media center PCs are successfully marketed as living room devices then people will look to online downloads as a means of competition with tradition media delivery systems.

If I have a choice between a $1000 media center PC that can handle all my computing and media needs or a $500 single purpose set-top box I will choose the former 10 times out of 10. Even if the latter delivers slightly better content the former offers so much more value that I could never opt otherwise.

Also, remember that not everyone has a $3000+ entertainment setup. Watching a movie on my 15" widescreen laptop is actually better than watching a movie on my 20" pan & scan tv from across the room. I normally watch my movies at night when my wife is sleeping, so the surround sound system I got (a $100 refurb) is seldom used anyway. Plus, most of the movies I rent were recorded originally in stereo.

Your cable company is a monopoly and part of the old-school of overcharging, heavy handed, copyright loving, consumer hating media industry. Be thankful that Netflix, Apple, and a few others are trying to offer different business models, even if they have to deal with the old schoolers to get the content out the door.

I'm excited about getting more service for the same money. It allows me to check out movie downloads without signing up for something new or paying extra money.

Now I just wonder about overage charges, extra service plans, and whether unused viewing time carries over. I also can't wait to see what BBO comes up with to compete.

Lamarr Wilson

I have to agree with the "whiners" comment. It seems that some are never happy. Had they come out with a download service, you would've complained that it's too expensive, or that the titles aren't what you like...

It's FREE, and they DID SOMETHING. Don't like it, don't use it. It will fulfill a need for a niche audience who are in front of their computer throughout the day and who would like a feature like this. Instead of complaining be thankful for something additional free! The HD-DVD & BluRay rentals at no additional cost is terrific; they certainly could've charged more for that, and they could've charged for this as well.

Thanks Netflix for DOING SOMETHING!

hrsd

because the movies are streaming, you need a internet connection at all times. You cant download movies and watch them on the go. Great if you are in the office or at home. A majority watch movies on pc/notebook when they are traveling....this feature doesnt help them.

Paradoxdl

This is a great idea for those who like to preview movies before renting, as well as those who are travelling (some us of have wireless connections, and some of us stay in "free wi-fi" hotel rooms). I'm part of the 3-out plan, so 18 hours also adds up to an ENTIRE SEASON of a TV show (without the commercials).

I prefer watching on my big screen plasma myself, but I wouldn't mind an episode of a TV show here and there on the laptop, at no additional cost. Once I can find an affordable way to hook my PC to my plasma, I'm good to go.

This plan will blow Blockbuster out of the water.

jonathan

No OS X ? No deal.

Here's my response:
http://www.jonathanmccarthy.com/blog/2007/01/16/to-be-inspired-and-disappointed-in-the-same/

peter

"This is awesome, I honestly don't see what all you whiners are complaining about."...

Do u always categorize opposing opinions as whining?...I don't see any whiners here...just folks who don't see any need for this & others who like it.

Cheers

Ricklogic

From interviews that Reed Hastings did regarding the new streamng service:

The stand out item for me is the recognition of Blockbuster by Reed Hastings.

From the New York Times article:

...With aggressive promotion of a new service called Total Access, which costs the same as Netflix’s service for three movies, and allows subscribers to exchange movies in stores, Blockbuster has added a staggering 700,000 subscribers since Nov. 1. “I wouldn’t be surprised to see our online subscribers double by the end of 2007,” John F. Antioco, the chief executive of Blockbuster, said.
Mr. Hastings played down the competition. “We have a lot of room to grow,” he said, adding that he expects Blockbuster’s online business to grow as well. “Our relative execution will determine what the share split is” between Netflix and Blockbuster, he added.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/16/technology/16netflix.html?ref=business

My comment about subscriber projections:

More than a year ago, Netflix made a projection of 20,000,000 subscribers in 2010 or 2012.

Blockbuster is solidly in the online DVD-by-mail game. If this is true, and since 20,000,000 seems to be viewed as the total potential market for the online DVD-by-mail market, Netflix would be more responsible if they entirely dropped the projection of 20,000,000 subscribers or, at least, dropped it to 10,000,000 which is about the best that they can possibly hope for.

From the Forbes.com article:

In this Forbes article, Reed Hastings:
...expressed little concern about the more ominous threat from on-demand film rental services from the likes of cable giants Comcast and Time Warner ...
"I worry mostly about the competition for time--user-generated videos, online games," Hastings said, adding that for now the live service is not expected to add to Netflix revenues.
http://www.forbes.com/2007/01/15/netflix-free-video-streaming-tech-media-cz_qh_0116netflix.html?partner=yahootix


The competition for eyeballs grows ever greater.
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Tester

"This is awesome, I honestly don't see what all you whiners are complaining about."

What is wrong with people expressing an opinion that is different than yours?

ScreenRant.com

WTF does it take to be one of the "select few"???

I've been a member of Netflix for over SEVEN YEARS... you'd think I'd be on their stupid "advanced" list.

Yeesh.

Vic

Adam Call Roberts

I *greatly* prefer watching movies on the TV instead of PC, but if its free, I'll download a few.

hawk5391

Not a bad idea but I'm not sure how much I'll use it.

bc

What I've read says this is a Windows Media only, DRM'd solution, which means "good luck" with getting it out of the browser and onto anything other than your computer for your preferred viewing location. This continues to show why DRM is such a bad idea for consumers and providers... if they open the ways people can use their product, they'll sell so much more. iTunes is the middle-ground right now... light DRM to appease the providers who don't yet "get it" and super ease of acquisition for the home user folks. Now in the video segment, they aren't doing that great on opening up the places you can view (iPods and appleTVs, but at least it *is* cross-platform) but in music, you can at least export to an unencumbered CD for use *anywhere*.
Once DRM goes away, then digital media over the net will truly bloom, with a biz boom for both providers, creators, and better value for consumers. There will always be hardcore pirates and they'll break whatever locks you make, so the idea is that you can make more money by treating your consumers respectfully than you could ever make by trying to shutdown pirates.

Dave

According to the SF Chronicle, Netflix will be phasing the release at a rate of 250,000 customers per week.

vio

"Wow.

I love how it's part of the regular membership price; Netflix's version of BB's Total Access.

If there were only a way to stream the video to my TV, I'd dump BB and come back home to Netflix."

Please... Just you watch, Blockbuster will have their own "Watch Now" download service up within a month or two. *grin* But Netflix still won't have any stores to rent DVDs from.

type-cast

"The HD-DVD & BluRay rentals at no additional cost is terrific; they certainly could've charged more for that, and they could've charged for this as well."

Maybe they SHOULD charge more for HD-DVD and BluRay. Personally, I don't like subsidizing them when I don't plan to buy either machine ever. Why should my money to go that? If you want HD or BR, you should pay extra. I think downlads should cost extra. Otherwise, it is just going to mean more throttling. How will they pay the studios for the content without more throttling, more ads, higher prices, or a combination of all three?

type-cast

"There will always be hardcore pirates and they'll break whatever locks you make,...
you can make more money by treating your consumers respectfully than you could ever make by trying to shutdown pirates."

Also, the number of customers is inversely proportional to the strength of the locks. People resent locks that prevent their use of things they paid for. You can't succeed by treating folks that way. If Netflix has decided on WMP9/WMP10, video output is not possible. Try taking a screen shot of some movie in Windows Media format. It's pretty much impossible. Forget about hooking your PC up to the TV and watching movies online through Netflix. Microsoft has worked very hard to make the user's life difficult and prevent doing anything they don't like. It would be a waste of time and money to even use this lame-duck offering. DRM must end.

Rusty Ramrod

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/en/node

jegraham

Downloading movies will allow Netflix to compete with BB Total Access, except you still cannot rent video games from Netflix. That is the only reason I am switching to BB. For me, the one rental a month is great. I rent the game, have two weeks to play, and if I really like the game, I can always buy it from Wal-Mart.

Meg

Wow, I think this is a great feature! Very exciting! I will use this a lot!

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