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gir

Not surprising. Hi-Def is an also-ran at this point. The industry infighting ensures that customers stay away in droves.

paving

Are there commercials on TV for HD DVD yet? THAT is why "hd" is an also-ran.

Adoption rates for hd tv's are going way up. After this xmas/superbowl season is when it really heats up as the # of people with hd sets will be much higher.

Also, content is finally coming along, see: direct tv adding all those hd channels.

This research is not a small sample size. .3% of netflix subscribers is like 15-20k people. And they clearly prefer the selection of movies available on the HD DVD format over the selection of movies out on Blu-Ray.

This is a big indicator of the direction this is headed, in my opinion. Note that I do not yet own either format.

CJ

I do own players for both formats and have observed it is getting darn near impossible to rent any title anywhere remotely "new release" now-a-days. Used to be easy 6 months ago, so either demand must be up, or supply must be down, or both. Or maybe it's just good old Netflix throttling. I do find BB much, much easier for on-line rental of either HD-DVD or Blu-ray new release titles for some reason.

So till all this sorts out, I am enjoying the Standard Definition DVDs upscaled to 1080p resolution.

The whole Hi-Def format rental situation seems to be a chicken-egg thing - rental outfits aren't going to stock unless they perceive demand, consumers aren't going spring for a player unless the supply is there, and then you've got the old brown chicken-egg vs. white chicken-egg thing (i.e. format wars) further clouding the issue.

Im Not A Turnip

I still expect to see the HD-DVD vs. BluRay format war end the same as the CD+R vs. CD-R war.

LG Electronics introduced a combo unit that plays both of the high definition formats months ago and I've read Samsung and Pioneer are working on similar players. The LG unit debuted at $1200 and is fairly easy to find on sale for $800. With a little more competition, the price will drop further.

As soon as people can be assured they won't be left out in the cold like their earlier Betamax counterparts, there will be a dramatic increase in interest in both high def formats. Like many others, I'm waiting for a reasonably priced combo unit.

PS: I agree with CJ - watching standard DVDs upconverted to 1080p *is* an enjoyable experience. I've been very impressed with the little player I bought for about $80.

paving

I don't think most people are waiting b/c of concern their chosen format will fail. I think it's based on demand, price and selection. There aren't *that* many people with HDTV's, there aren't many movies out yet in HD formats and the price is still higher than it needs to be, especially for Blu-Ray.

Average price around $200 and double the new release/catalog selection plus increased adoption rates of HDTV and you have people buying HD DVD players and discs in larger numbers.

Content and price are the drivers here, not new technology.

Baff

I'm skeptical of these numbers. Blu-Ray movies outsell HD-DVD 2 to 1, which matches the ratio of people looking at Blu-Ray and HD-DVD genres.

I'm thinking a lot of people mis-understand what they are selecting. Probably a lot of people who bought an HD TV thought they need to select HD-DVD. Looking at their chart it appears about 10,000 people change their setting back to regular dvds every month.

I agree with the others here that most upscaled dvds do look very good (good enough that most people don't need to rush out and buy HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players), but I still see a noticeable improvement when watching Blu-Ray and the sound is usually better too.

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