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prozac

For $99.00 I would consider it. I enjoy the watch now service and have noticed that movies are constantly being updated. Soon enough we will see new releases on Watch Now ( a few have come out already). NF will have there hands full with other types of set-top movie entertainment.

Matt

Ok Reggie put all those Ninteto Wiis in the US Market to good use and make Netflix channel on the Wii .

Xbox would be another good fit because it already does Windows media .

Pollardito

Sharp has a fairly similar set-top-box, i wonder if they will partner up later:

http://tech.yahoo.com/blog/patterson/7269
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071220/ap_on_hi_te/tech_test_vudu

MCWHAMMER

Awesome stuff. If it's cheap enough, I'll buy it.

One question, if anyone could please help.

Has anyone tried hooking up a PC/Laptop to their HDTV to watch something off of Netflix instantly? If so, is the resolution bad looking on a big screen?

I'm wondering if I should buy a cable to do this, or wait for the set-top box.

Hope they do bring it to the game consoles too, those are a big opportunity, as they are already connected to the net, and are HDMI/Component capable. So, not much work would have to be done to link them to existing Netflix accounts.

I'm glad to hear that Netflix is trying to stay with the times :)

MCWHAMMER

Sorry for the double post, but I would at most pay $150 for it, IF the movies were HD quality. The box needn't include a DVD player or anything, just so long as it synced up with my Netflix account and maybe iTunes ;) That'd be awesome.

Kre

I wouldn't buy it until they offer a SIGNIFICANT selection of movie and TV episode titles.

Right now, their Watch Instantly selection is pathetic at best. It reminds me of Comcast On Demand, only worse, with a bunch of old, obscure movies that you know no one would want to watch. They're just there as filler to inflate the number-count of the online library: "Look! We've got 5000 movies!" Yeah, too bad most of them are crap.

I'm not saying they have to offer everything they do currently on DVD, but until they offer around 25% of what you can get via DVD, and I mean the good stuff - the most popular of movies, not all the crap, then I wouldn't even think about buying a box.

I want something more than just old movies I've seen ten thousand times and are sick of, and old boring junk that you'd never see anyone watching - you know, like what makes up the vast majority of the junk on Comcast On Demand. People want the latest. You can't avoid that and think that you can fool people into thinking they're getting the best thing since sliced bread. People are not stupid in that regard. I'm certainly not.

I've been waiting for a very long time for Netflix to come out with a way for me to download or stream movies instantly to my TV (not just my computer), and it's great they're moving in this direction. It shows, at least in part, that the person at the wheel isn't asleep. But they're going to have to really wow us.

If they're going to offer boxes that merely stream movies, then at the very least, I want to see a box with a bit of flash memory to serve as a buffer so when I fast forward and rewind, the box doesn't take forever to respond like it does with Comcast On Demand. That just drives me nuts. I want the box to be quick and responsive, and frankly, want the ability to forward and rewind by chapters, and to go straight to a chapter - not just fast forward and fast rewind like we see with Comcast. Not being able to do that also drives me nuts. That's why I think they should offer a box with a HDD that can download the movies, and then erase them when new downloads take their place. Streaming only, is not a very good idea - it reduces the ability to navigate and see special features, etc. In other words, if Netflix is going to offer a box, that box better perform just like a DVD inside a DVD player. Otherwise, forget it.

Oh yeah, and I almost forgot: It better handle HD movies, also. Because if it's just gonna rock standard definition only, you can forget that, too.

Don't half-ass it, Netflix. Get it right the first time, or don't even bother. Please. I don't need "Comcast On Demand, Part II" - I already have their box that handles that and handles HD, so why would I spend money on yours if all you're going to offer is a similarly crappy selection of movies with the same "streaming" short-comings? At least I don't have to pay next to anything for the Comcast box. But I'm supposed to drop $100 - $200 for yours? The only way I'm breaking bank for that (and you know I'm hardly the only one who thinks this way), is if you give me something that REALLY gets my attention. Otherwise, drop another quarter into the machine and "Try Again".

Edward R Murrow

So cool, LG stuff is like one step above what was available through the Homebrew Computer Club.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club

The first of these set top boxes will be at Kmart as a blue light special, right across the aisle from the Martha Stewart collection.

But seriously, the best that NFLX can do is with parter up with LG? They could have done something on Xbox, Wii, PS3, etc. and all they can do is stream to a setup box from LG?

While Apple has iPod, iPhone, iTunes and AppleTV...

"If (Apple) does what has been reported, they will reach a very big market," Hastings said. "But the addition of Apple to the rental market isn't causing us to lose any sleep." Full story here:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080102/netflix_tv.html?.v=1

Somebody better make Reed put the pipe down and leave the opium den during core business hours.

mojaam

Darn, I thought it will be the movies Netflix have on DVDs rather than the meager 6,000 titles on the watch instantly feature. I love it, but I finished a couple TV series and a few movies but the selection is not that satisfying. I hope they convert more movies sooner and faster.

camman68

Recently, I purchased a new desktop PC. My old PC was unreliable but I didn't want to get rid of it. It had a TV tuner and a decent video card in it so I attached it to a Dell 32" HDTV via S-Video in my bedroom. I also have Dell Speakers and sub.

The website checks your speed then determine which version to stream. My desktop is wired to my DSL network so I get the highest quality movies available. Most of the movies have been sub-par but it is acceptable if I don't have any DVD's at home.

Currently, most of the movies I have seen are not DVD quality. However, this week I watched Saint of 9/11 and the quality was excellent. It seemed to me that it was almost HD.

Since the Watch Instantly is free, I think it is great. I don't think I would buy the settop box until more of their movies are available in DVD or HD quality.

JJMcRay

MCWHAMMER, I watch Netflix instantly on my 104" screen and to me it looks DVD quality, it looks much better than my basic cable. I have my PC hooked up to my Optoma HD70 720p projector over a VGA connection.

MovieFiend

I'm sure that the selection will increase, it won't be everything, and I doubt you'll see new releases on there for 6 months to a year after they come out, but I'd buy one if the major films of the 2000's were available, films like "Gladiator" While there not new, it'd still be worth it.

Baff

There is no way I would pay $200, I would just up my Netflix rental plan instead.

I would consider $100, though I would most likely hold off, hoping for a PS3 version. I really don't want another box that I have no room for. No space in my entertainment center and the only slot on my TV is 1 Component slot, the HDMIs are taken.

At $50, I would probably grab it as an impulse buy, space or not.

If I had to plug it into composite, s-video, or coax, then I wouldn't bother at any price. Netflix doesn't offer any HD downloads yet, but I wouldn't want a machine that won't support the option when they do offer it. 1080 would be awesome, but I would be happy enough with 720p for downloads.

Hope we get some solid details soon.

willielumlum

KRE:
Seriously?! You think netflix has all those lousy movies on purpose so they can turn us off to the whole watch instantly thing?! If netflix could get the rights for the new releases from the studios to distribute over the internet then they would. unfortunately, most studios already have contacts in place with major cable networks such as HBO and Showtime to allow exclusive rights to those companies. If the studios didn't have these contracts in place then maybe the selection would be better and we could get them on watch instantly. but to blame this on netflix some how is short sighted and ignorant. oh, and i bet you buy one as soon as it comes out. HA!

Blazie

I would only consider this purchase if it was less than $100, unless it came with something more than just streaming capability. I'll more likely hold out for someone to make a plugin for popular media center software like Mediaportal or Microsoft's MCE, since I already own a HTPC and I don't want to have yet another box cluttering up my entertainment center.

I have an HTPC which upscales and all that on the projector, so I can play divx, youtube, DVDs, games, and don't need this box. I think this is a great idea for some users. These are early days in this type of thing, but I am glad Netflix waited (in my opinion) just long enough to jump into the fray. It will only get better and better.

Too bad there are some weak links that hopefully can be addressed a) the studios are holding back on the good content. Please don't blame NFLX. The studios would rather see more like a $10-15 rental fee per film (crackheadz) b) the pic quality should be as HD as possible, again NOT Netflix's fault- the broadband (non-cable) needs to be able to handle it first. It is impressively making use of the capacity available, and close to DVD.

B) is going to be resolved within a few years as FIOS, vDSL, etc., build out, but A) can only get resolved if the studios remove their heads from their asses. Right now, with the writers costing the entire industry, studios making rentals more affordable and accessible seems pretty damn far off.

An MCE plugin and other widget type stuff would be very wise, I like how Reed envisions Netflix on "hundreds" of devices and very interesting to note not all instant...

CopaceticOpus

Netflix is working pretty well for me as it is now, so this box would have to offer something compelling to get me to buy it. The current limited selection of Watch Now titles would make this box barely worth connecting.

If they do get a fuller selection of movies, I would worry about quality. I watch DVDs on a 52" TV with a great upscaling player. If I can't get a similar experience, I'll stick to the discs.

I'm sure in 5-10 years, we'll all be watching downloaded movies in our living rooms. But along the way there's going to be a lot of failed devices and big showdowns between the major corporations. I can wait for the dust to settle.

Becky

In a New York minute!

Jason

It'd be interesting to see if NF would subsidize the box to (new) subscribers much like DirecTV does for its receivers.

Nick

since 802.11n is backwards compatible... build it in and people will use it with the 802.11g hardware right now and then the N stardard will be present once people upgrade. I would like Netflix to continue to represent the feeling that they exist to make things better and more convenient for the customer by actually thinking ahead unlike the other 99% of every tech companies.

Adam Fields

How about we get a Mac version of Watch Now first?

MCWHAMMER

Thanks for the help JJMcRay! Sounds good :)

MCWHAMMER

Thanks for the help JJMcRay! Sounds good :)

Chris

"since Netflix has to pay the studios for each viewing"

Does anyone have an idea of how much Netflix is paying the distributors for one watch it now viewing?

georgec

Pricing: Needs to be under $100, perhaps subsidized by a longer term contract.

Partners: More than just LG, but its an OK start. TiVo ... please. I'm begging.

Technology: A variety of ports-out is correct, per other posters. Clean, intuitive interface. Protection from accidental downloading/watching. Pause/skip/rewind/FF. Save for longer periods (none of this must-watch-in-24-hours). Multi-room viewing if I have 2 Netflix boxes on my network. Start the downloads from work (web ordering). Enough buffering for those of us with really bad DSL lines (I'm at the end of the pop and barely get 200kbps download).

Content: Where the rubber meets the road! Must have more than just the Watch Now library. I'd love to see enough content partnerships so that I could really replace Charter Cable content with Netflix content. That means not only first and second run movies, but also TV hot series as well, and even some of what is now second and third tier cable: some of Bravo's hot series, Pimp my Ride type of stuff, Curious George/Sesame Street, etc...

Today, I pay roughly $20 to Netflix, $60 to cable, and $40 for DSL. Please help me reduce some of this entertainment budget. Preferably by 86ing the dastardly cable companies.

And that's my $0.02... FWIW.

Noah

Damn it, Adam beat me to it -- Make the Mac version of Watch Now first...I mean, we all saw how well that Netflix & TiVo partnership turned out. (rolls eyes)

ZFT

I was excited until I saw that it was the measly selection of "Watch Instantly" movies.

I'd pay a premium to have full HD access to NEW RELEASES, with a fast interface. People that are into technology pay a lot of money for their systems so they look the best they can. It's critical to give them components that allow them to maximize their technology. If I see artifacting or poor compression, then I'll avoid it like the plague, along with every other technophile.

Do what you need to get the studios to allow instant New Release availability! What ever you do, just don't half-ass it.

CJ

I wouldn't pay a penny for such a set-top box.

I expect NF to strike a deal with SONY so I can use the existing PS3 in my system (which is only used for movies) - the above LG screenshot looks just like the opening screen on the PS3.

Currently, I'm considering connecting one of the computers, via a DVI-HDMI adapter, to the 47" 1080p LCD TV which is already connected to Digital cable box with DVR, SONY PS3, and Toshiba A20. Problem is, however, this is totally illogical since there's already a computer (the PS3) connected to the system.

Wish these hardware/content providers would get their acts together.

AC

How about we get a Linux version of Watch Now first? I hate wasting all my hours each month b/c I use Linux. Stupid DRM restrictions.

Mike

I'm not worried about the movie selection or even the price point.

My main issue would the STREAMING PART, I have a pretty slow dsl connection, if you could download them ahead of time, store a few movies at a time on the box (only need a 40gb hdd or whatever. That would work.

But no way I would get it if I had to stream everything!

priv8pete

I've been keeping a list of Watch Now movies that I'm interested in when I'm in Netflux and the list is at 65 right now. There are probably just as many titles available that I've seen and rated 4 or 5 stars along with quite a few TV series, so I think the selection is actually pretty good.

I will most likely buy a device to connect Watch Now to my TV, but I'll probably wait and see if Netflix strikes a deal with Sony or Microsoft.

smgpugfaw

Just wondering why so many people seem to have their HDMI filled on their TV.

Are these system without seperate audio/speakers (home theater)?

If you're running a sperate receiver to drive sound and you hooked things up even remotely correctly, you should have exactly one HDMI on your TV in use. (unless your receiver is lacking sufficient HDMI connectors)

Or are that many people using their TV for sound too? (ugh)

As far as the service goes - too much whining here for my tastes. This is the very beginning (along with Apple TV) of the next generation.

As silly as it seems to buy and/or listen to music on CD now, it will seem equally silly to buy and/or watch movies on DVD in a few years.

This is just the start. Support it and help the future come quicker or stand by and whine and be forced to deal with DVD longer than you have to.

I welcome the demise of the DVD with open arms - just like I did the demise of the CD.

Im Not A Turnip

MCWHAMMER, I agree with JJMcRay. I have a PC connected to my 65" HDTV using a standard DVI monitor style connection with audio going to my receiver. I can't tell a difference between the quality of watch now and an upscaled DVD. So far only one movie looked grainy, but the rest looked great. The PC has wireless internet (2MB download speed) and isn't very special - the graphics card is an nVidia 6600 GT. I ran the cables through the wall so I could keep the PC in the adjacent room and control it from the couch with a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard combo.

MCWHAMMER

Im Not A Turnip, thank you for backing him up. I only have a 40", which is nothing compared to you guys... or girls. I ordered the necessary cable today (I have to use a VGA for my laptop, that is the only option I believe). So, by next week I should be able to get it up-and-running.

Good idea about the bluetooth mouse/keyboard!

Donuts

WatchNow works well over 801.11b which is 11Mb, which is faster than anyone's internet connection.

If they had any brains at all we'd be able to this on a Wii, and an XBox. I don't need another box in the living room.

Super-Bat-Man

I'd be down for ps3 compatabiliity. (xbox is too loud to use for movies) and I don't really want another box and remote and have to switch to another input. right now I play games and watch dvds on the PS3 so I never change inputs. but this seems cool, definitely a step in the right direction.

Corey3rd

This will only get nice and ugly as NF will fight it out with HBO, Showtime and Starz for the rights to have the OnDemand rights to various films.

Im Not A Turnip

MCWHAMMER: You're welcome. Just make sure you get the Bluetooth version of the keyboard / mouse combo. It has a 30' range and works through walls vs. a 6' range for a standard wireless set.

Search Amazon for "Microsoft Optical Desktop Elite for Bluetooth" and buy it for $45 + freight instead of the list price of $100 PLUS.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Optical-Desktop-Elite-Bluetooth/dp/B0002IG356/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1199424505&sr=8-2

superfunhappy

Edward R Murrow guy, do you really think Netflix is evil or ignorant or (insert negative here).

I don't think Netflix is perfect but man, have you got an odd hatred towards them.

I like Netflix but I also wish they'd make a damned Mac client for instant watching. Me and the other 7% of PC users.

See? I'm being both optimistic and realistic (that they won't).

Brian

I think the key will be for Netflix to setup their service to work on cable/dish company STBs and on Media Center Extenders.

For now, I watch on my laptop, 17 hrs a month (not enough IMHO). I'm curious to see how many hours they will allow. They want to eliminate DVDs by mail, but I'm curious as to how they will compensate for those who want unlimited views.

At the very least, they can average out how many movies someone takes every month and than give you at least that many hours. I think marrying DVD by mail and streaming is best.

Sashazur

I won't even THINK of buying this unless it has a terabyte hard drive, bluetooth, n-wireless, and Netflix makes ALL of their DVDs available to watch instantly on it and they all download in 2 seconds.

And it needs to be made by Rolls-Royce and be encrusted with diamonds too.

Oh, and it can't cost more than $25 either.

(Realistically? I would pay $200 for a simple box that lets me view Netflix' Watch Instantly movies. But I would rather put that money towards a Wii or Xbox that would also let me watch Netflix)

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