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You don't mention that the PS3 app is more of a hack than anything. It's using the BD Java features to bring in content, but the PS3 thinks the data is coming off a disc. This has the side effect of not handling SD widescreen content properly on HDTVs compared to other devices with Netflix built-in. The true comparison will be when there is a built-in Netflix app.

BD Live

This seems more like a comparison of consoles rather than a comparison of each console's Netflix streaming features. Sorry, not a very useful article.

andyg8180

agreed... seems more of a PS3 v 360 rather than a PS3 netflix vs 360 netflix... sorry :-\

Fred Fredrickson

I think it fairs well as an article aimed at somebody looking to buy a console for streaming netflix... it's a good pros/cons list.

That being said, I ended up getting the roku, cause let's face it- the gold membership cost just doesn't seem worth it when you're paying so little already for netflix.. and the playstation is more than that.

david

I will soon be picking up a PS3. the main issue for me is cost. with a PS3 you get a better than entry level blu ray player plus a current gen gaming device for $299. i think the xbox 360 is better for games, but not so much that i'd want to spend the $199 + another $199 or more for a comparable quality blu ray player.

Mike

I wanted to compare the platforms for people looking to purchase a PS3 or Xbox 360 for streaming this holiday season, and talk about some of the pro's and con's of each platform.

I agree that a true comparison of native Netflix streaming apps will have to wait until late next year when the PS3 app ships, and I expect that Microsoft will add even more features in the meantime.

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Tim

We bought our PS3 for the Blu-ray player at a time when it was about $100 more than the cheapest Bluray. Figured the ability to play games was worth $100.

We tried PlayOn when that came out, but it was too unreliable. We've been very happy with the Netflix disc.

Our only issue with the PS3 is that the fans can drown out a movie if you don't have good ventilation around it. I don't know how the second-gen system or Xbox compare.

joe

xbox is the clear winner w/ games. the halo franchise pwns, and PS3 doesn't have any killer apps. anything big like rock band or COD is cross platform.

Fred Fredrickson

playon sucks for netflix.. but I use it daily for hulu, and I just love it in conjunction with the netflix app now native to the xbox 360.

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Xbox.... Really no question if you like games (from the casual like board games to the high end like the FPS's). And the community is so much better...

And the Xbox UI and interface for Netflix is so much better. Plus the social components.

Luna Saisho

I am sorry to say, but I agree in that this is more of a personal comparison of consoles then it is Netflix. I'm a gamer, and have both consoles, and enjoy them both quite a bit.

The most important part of this comparison was ignored in place of making one console look better: Quality of Netflix Instant streaming. The PS3 is a great console, I use it a lot and love having Blu-Ray on it. I don't, however, like streaming letterboxed SD with Netflix, as there is no way to adjust the zoom so it's not a rectangular box in the center of my screen. The 360 makes the SD look pretty darned good.

I really think you need to discuss, anywhere, how the PS3 actually performs with this solution to Netflix Instant. That's where the decision is.

I think that the 360 also has a *much* better online experience as a whole, and it's worth paying for.

Jay

It should be fair to note that the "RROD" issue has been resolved in all consoles sold for at least the past year, and I am willing to guess you could have gotten a "RROD-proof" Xbox as far as two years ago. I've owned 3 xbox, two broke, but not because of RROD, one was the CD drive and one would freeze w/o the RROD.

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Iggy

Xbox Pro: The last Xbox Netflix update brought the ability to browse through movies and shows without them needing to be in your que. Makes it much easier to find something if you que is getting stale.

Xbox Con: you can still only browse one way (dunno about the PS3, but the Roku player let you browse backwards from the beginning - the Xbox forces you to scroll through 400 titles to get to the one you just added to your que)


Hardware-wise, you can use any IR remote with the Xbox - you need to buy third party hardware to do that with the PS3 (which will cost more than a year or two of a gold Live account). Using a controller kind of spoils the immersion.

CJ

PS3 - If you've using the PS3 already for watching either upscaled SD DVDs, or Blu-ray DVDs, you're completely used to putting in a disc, dealing with a menu, and operating your bluetooth DVD player remote. The interface is exactly like the existing Roku box, which many PS3 console operators probably already use. And I'm sure the interface will be fantastic come 2010 when Microsoft's monopoly for Netflix IW software on a game console expires.

Who would want to pay $40 more a year, deal with MS software, and have a console with a 27% failure rate? My PS3 (the original with 4 USB ports, etc.) has worked flawlessly since I got when the PS3 first came out.

Bryan

The PS3 is the center of my entertainment system. I use it for streaming media from my computer, browsing the internet on my tv (including streaming tv shows from network sites), games, dvd and bluray, viewing pictures and now streaming netflix.

The games for both systems are comparable, but the PS3 easily beats the 360 in terms of "real cost" (no $40 a year fee, no $99 wifi dongle, no $150 hard drive, no RROD), versatility and reliability.

S

I own both consoles, and I have never been too concerned with what I consider bells and whistles (the optimum screen format, audio quality, etc). As long as I can see the picture and hear the actors, I'm not too concerned with much else. My personal preference is the XBOX, for the game library and the additional ways to browse WI titles. I also get a lot of good out of XBOX Live, and do not mind in the least paying for it.

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I own both consoles (actually two of each) and have returned my launch 360 and my launch PS3. They're both great, the PS3 for Blu-Ray and the 360 for gaming (online and off). As far as paying for XBox Live goes, there's a reason people pay for the service. It's hands down the best online service on any console. It certainly is the market leader when it comes to online innovation, though if you'd rather save the money a lot of the features do eventually come to the PS3 in a year or two (take Netflix for example). And don't be put off by the price... if you're paying $50 a year for XBox Live you're overpaying! The last subs I bought (my wife and I each have one) were just over $17 a piece. That's just slightly more than a $1 a month. If you can't afford that, you probably shouldn't own either console.

As for the Netflix, the 360 version gets my vote. At least until the downloadable PS3 version releases. The PS3 version is much slower in comparison and it doesn't seem very user friendly. I do hope it's improved as I really love the bluetooth remote and I'd like to be able to use my PS3 as my media watching machine! Freeing up my 360 for the gaming.

Steven

Who needs wireless? My Xbox is plugged directly into my router.

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ZeroCorpse

A few points:

1. WiFi is not necessary, so building that $99 into the price is hardly fair. I use Ethernet (free). Some people use 3rd party bridges ($50). Either way, WiFi is not a requirement for Netflix, so adding that cost is a bit disingenuous.

2. You fail to compare the power drain of each device, for those who care about such things as saving money on their electricity bill and not damaging the environment any more than necessary.

For the record, estimates/test results follow:
PS3 (phat): 175 watts
PS3 (slim): 95 watts
Xbox 360 (older): 125 watts
Xbox 360 (jasper): 95 watts
Roku Netflix Player: 5 watts

The Roku remains the best choice if you don't want to expend 100 watts on Netflix streaming (and that's not counting the energy used by your router, TV, and modem, either!)

3. Gold Membership in Xbox Live is not $40 if you have even a halfway decent grasp on shopping. Most of us pay about $29 for a year of it when it's on sale at popular e-tailers. That's about $2.41 per month. It also gives us a lot more than just Netflix streaming, and certainly more than on PSN.

4. If you use the Xbox 360 Pro/Elite (which is the price you listed) instead of the Arcade, you get an HD component cable. If you use a PS3, you don't get an HD cable; You get a composite cable. You'll need to spend the money to get a component or HDMI cable separately with the PS3 if you want HD movies.

5. The hard drive is NOT necessary to stream Netflix on the Xbox 360. You're just as capable of using the built-in storage on the Arcade model (you only need 5MB available), which only costs $199 as compared to the PS3's $299 minimum price.

If you're going to compare based on Netflix streaming, then don't inflate the prices and hardware required to get it!

Minimum requirements to stream Netflix on an Xbox 360 are:
Xbox 360 Arcade ($199)
Live Gold account ($29 - $40)
Ethernet cable ($5)

While the bare minimum PS3 setup is:
PS3 ($299)
Ethernet cable ($5)

Both would be SD video out of the box, unless you have an HDMI or component cable.

ZeroCorpse

Oh, and I forgot to note that the Jasper model of Xbox 360 is very quiet, very cool, and doesn't have the RROD problems.

I can't speak to the sound level of the slim PS3, but I'd imagine it's also quieter than its predecessor.

However, I can say that my Jasper 360 is quieter than the 80GB PS3 I previously owned.

WilliamRLBaker

LOL what a total crap vs.
what does dvd playback and bluray playback have to do with netflix streaming? wireless have to do?

simple FACT netflix streaming on 360 is better its faster, more convient and superior to the ps3 version its a simple fact.

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