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Netflix Helps on Twitter posted bandwidth requirements for SD, DVD quality, and HD Netflix streaming:
How fast is your Internet connection?
October 29, 2010 | Permalink
not very fast, it depends
World of warcraft gold |
October 29, 2010 at 05:18 AM
10 Mbps with an option of 20Mbps for $15 more. Up until now I've never considered moving up a tier because there wasn't a need. This is the first time I would even be able to use it. This is of course depending on Netflix offering 1080p in Media Center.
October 29, 2010 at 08:15 AM
12 Mbps Comcast. I seen the bit rate on the PS3 go as high as 8mbps when streaming HD.
October 29, 2010 at 08:18 AM
.76 Mbps DSL from AT&T. Only option when we moved. I really miss streaming. I gorge whenever I get a chance on a decent connection. Been thinking about trying out Virgin Mobile's wireless plan - it might be faster than my crappy DSL.
October 29, 2010 at 08:43 AM
6Mbps ATT DSL
Will Dearborn |
October 29, 2010 at 09:12 AM
50 Mbps Comcast
October 29, 2010 at 09:57 AM
Verizon Fios 15Mbps. Never get buffering.
October 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM
mine runs between 12 and 16Mbs (Comcast). My PS3 delivers 1080p.
October 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM
I get up to 20 Mbps down which is generally around 14 Mbps. But I'm using wifi on the ps3 and when I run speed tests from the ps3 browser I'm closer to 7, occasionally over 10. And that's after experimenting with different wifi channels/settings which made a big difference.
When I click display while watching a HD title it almost always says High/SD. I haven't seen it say HD yet.
Gunna have to run ethernet cable one of these days.
October 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM
The service I have is 8 Mbps but I routinely get 10-11 Mbps in actuality. Charter has a couple of more tiers above me but I've never had the need to upgrade. I always get HD when available on Netflix.
October 29, 2010 at 10:41 AM
I have a 30 Mbps down / 2 Mbps up connection. No problem streaming here.
Jason Hansen |
October 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM
I'm confused. I have around 0.75 Mbps and I stream from my computer and from the Wii all the time with no problem. It takes a bit of time to start up, but almost never has to re-buffer while streaming.
Wait... maybe I understand. I'm probably getting less than the SD quality mentioned.
Michael Stone |
October 29, 2010 at 11:18 AM
In the Bay Area you can get a 250Mbps line but it costs $3,500 a month. Comcast advertises 12Mbps for twenty dollars a month. But there are several 'catches".
The first one is that the $19.99 price is only for the first six months. After that is costs $42.95 a month. Or maybe it's more yet. Another Comcast ad calls the 12Mbps service the "Extreme" service which is $99/month for the first six months and presumably more thereafter.
It's also hard to figure out if Comcast is using its so called Performance Blast feature to boost its stats. For a minute or so Comcast can download at a very high rate - say 12Mbps instead of the regular 6Mbps. This is very useful for updates or other short downloads. But of course it is irrelevant for movie watching.
I had a very bad experience with Comcast Internet when it first came out and I reverted to AT&T DSL. I'm sure they are better now but I'm not going back. I get 5Mbps on the test sites.
If you call someone 300 miles away on the other coast, your phone call travels by optical fiber for more than 2,990 miles. Only
the "last mile" is on copper twisted pair. Every year the fiber link to your house comes closer.
Much the same is true of CATV. The coaxial cable itself is capable of carrying a much higher bandwidth than telephone twisted pair but it hardly matters. It's the nearness of optical fiber that is important. Soon cable TV won't run over cable at all. Just like the telephone most of the high speed parts already run on fiber.
For the time being in America we are stuck at about the 5Mbps download speed mark. NetFlix adjusts its codecs to produce a stream that fits within that 5Mbps for 720p High Definition. They could just as easily set the codecs for a 1080p stream but most Americans don't have a an Internet connection that is fast enough - and won't have for several years yet.
Verizon apparently ran into the chicken or egg problem. Their 20Mbps lines still showed content like NetFlix HD streaming at a quality dictated by the 5Mbps that everyone else had. It's as if your new Blu-ray player could only show DVDs for first few years. People would not be in a hurry to up grade.
NetFlix has a High Definition product optimized for 5Mbps lines. I expect when the number of 20Mbps line become more widespread, NetFlix will offer a Very High Definition (VHD) or Blu-ray Like (BRL) service at a slightly higher cost. This service would be like that already available in South Korea and have enough bandwidth for 1080p at 24fps (or maybe even at 60fps) and 3D.
October 29, 2010 at 11:33 AM
If you don't have Verizon FIOS - you don't have sh!t. Nothing beats fiber optics broadband...
PS3 fanboi |
October 29, 2010 at 11:42 AM
My house is hoocked with fiber optic. I dont even need a modem i just hook up my wireless router directly to the wall jack and walla internet. The bat thing about is that the carrier is ATT and according to the tech they have not developed the services so the fastest speed they can offer me is 1.5mbps. Thats why i am with comcast.
October 29, 2010 at 11:58 AM
I've got Qwest in Phx with 20mbps service. Which tests out in "reality" between 15 and 18.
When ordering internet services with the intent of streaming Netflix, you REALLY need to be aware of the sustained speeds available. The advertised speed of your internet provider are usually the peak speeds available, in bursts.....but not the speeds they are capable of maintaining.
Get internet service that's just a little more than you need...pays off.
I've got 20mbps service so I can stream on a couple different devices AND still use my internet for e-mail, web stuff and not notice the speed hit.
Steve I |
October 29, 2010 at 12:05 PM
I get 5mbps for $35 thanks to local fiber.
Don't forget, you can ALT+SHIFT+Left Click to force a resolution/stream rate.
Marshall Guthrie |
October 29, 2010 at 12:08 PM
How are you guys confirming 1080P etc. on PS3?
The info mentioned on my PS3 mentions Xtra High/HD etc. but no resolution?
Lance Moody |
October 29, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Do the new roku boxes let you manually select the stream like the old boxes?
October 29, 2010 at 01:10 PM
7Mbps @ $46.00.
I rarely use NF's streaming.
October 29, 2010 at 02:27 PM
I have plenty. Bring on more HD for us in the HTPC crowd!
October 29, 2010 at 04:02 PM
30/30 Fios Connection. Best internet connection I've ever had. Never buffers for Netflix.
Rob H |
October 29, 2010 at 04:25 PM
Can someone translate how many GB is a 2 hour movie at 5Mbps?
There is no way the cable co's are going to let us all start using 200+ GB per month.
October 29, 2010 at 04:35 PM
5 megabits per second
3600 seconds per hour
8 bits (b) per Byte (B)
8000 Mb per 1 GB
5 * 3600 / 8000 = 2.25 GB per hour
That's about right, since a DVD stores 4.7 GB (or 9.4 GB for dual layer?) and a blu-ray disc holds 25 or 50 GB.
October 29, 2010 at 04:46 PM
So, to get to 200 GB per month you'd have to watch 89 hours of streaming content (2.86 hours per day).
October 29, 2010 at 04:49 PM
I have optimum online ultra i get 101mbps downstream 15mbps upstream the best i ever had but still will never stream can't stand it!!!
October 29, 2010 at 05:20 PM
Clear internet: 1.0 Mbps on a good day.
Advertised as 3.0 Mbps download in my account.
October 29, 2010 at 06:44 PM
I reliably get 15 Mbps downstream as measured by bandwidth tests on my computer. I don't know what I get when streaming Netflix -- depends on the connection from me to their server, right? But it doesn't seem to matter since what I'm watching right now is season 2 of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", and the picture looks like SD at best. Possibly worse; night scenes are often pretty noisy, and the show has a lot of those. Oh well.
Michael H. |
October 29, 2010 at 08:05 PM
Just tried said 3.5 MBs but my laptop has slow connection compared to Xbox and PS3. I deff. get 720p on both all the time.
October 29, 2010 at 09:55 PM
Nvm tested in a server in Boston got 15 MBs. Am wondering (not computer savy) how does Netflix determine your Bandwidth? Some tests I get 15 MBs others 5.
October 29, 2010 at 10:06 PM
I don't trust some of these round numbers. Are you all just trusting the bill, or doing speed tests.
Clearwire. Usually tests around 2500 mb/s, backed up with real world (large downloads, stopwatch) about that. Everything on gigabit network internally, so no catches once the signal gets inside the house.
Routinely stream decent quality. Earlier today, two of them (wife in the office on MB, child in living room on Insignia BD). Worked fine. Not HD, but no artifacting or anything. Oh, and I was working on the internet with no overt lag or anything.
Steven Hoober |
October 30, 2010 at 12:15 AM
2500 mb/s? I don't think so...maybe kb/s. And you probably don't really need a gigabit network to speed up your internet connection.
October 30, 2010 at 10:31 AM
I get "up to 40Mbps" through Bright House Networks. Ideally, I get 20-30 Mbps on www.speedtest.net. On Netflix streaming on Wii, I am always capped at around 2 Mbps. I'm not sure if this is a limitation of Netflix or the Wii, or both.
October 31, 2010 at 03:18 PM
25/3 from Charter, but usually get 30-35 from them. We've often had 2 of us streaming Netflix HD at same time w/o any issues.
November 01, 2010 at 03:45 AM
6Mbps ATT DSL, $35 per month - seems to work pretty well for HD on netflix.
November 01, 2010 at 03:04 PM
According to wikipedia, Netflix uses VC-1 codec but there are many profiles.. there is no minimum bitrate, however the max bitrate is showin in this link:
check the HD resolution (1080p/i) max bandwidth
December 08, 2010 at 07:25 PM
Wow, everyone here is making me very jealous. We live out in the country in the middle of Nebraska and we are paying $44.95 per month for 1Mbps DSL!!!! No, that's not a typo, that is a one. Plus we only get 384Kbps upload. And since the phone company has no competition, they can keep gouging us for it. They want $69.95 for 3Mbps and $109.95 for 5Mbps!
Anyway, to keep this on topic, I was thinking of getting Netflix, but with the 1.5Mbps requirement, I guess that's out. Sorry for the rant.
December 31, 2010 at 09:55 PM
Rowdy, your math is a bit off there...
You forgot that you are talking transfer rates not "actual data speeds" of your connection...
Transfer rate of 5Mbps for the HD movie is actually around 650kpbs (HD) - which would equal out to 650 x 60 x 120 for a 2 hour movie. 4,680,000 or 4.46 GB for the HD movie.
The SD movie has a transfer rate of about 128kbps (4 stars) - or .88 GB per movie or about a 720x480 VCD quality AVI file.
The low quality stream runs about 64kbps (1-2 stars) or about .43 GB or a 640x480 quality AVI file.
Since streaming compression on Netflix is variable, it's hard to nail the exact rates, but these are pretty close numbers. So if you are streaming 1-2 stars you are pushing a 1.5 MB connection pretty hard. If you are streaming 3-4 stars you are pushing a 3-6 connection pretty well. If you want HD, it's best to go with 10+.
Remember also, if you have devices online while you are streaming, factor them in as well.
January 09, 2011 at 08:56 PM
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