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Aron

Sadly, a large swath of America enjoys making the logic-challenged self-serving argument that there is no cost to studios for them to make a copy of something 'they wouldn't otherwise buy'. When will sycophants of the geek zeitgeist recognize the problem?

devans

Aron- The controversy is not about DRM and the pirating movies. It is about the DMCA being used to restrict the publishing of a 64 bit number. Not source code, not some fancy algorithm, but a simple number.


This is just reason # 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 that the DMCA should undergo significant changes.

type-cast

Aron, there are legitimate reasons to copy a movie. Like the recent Sony discs that won't even play in some machines and computers. Or parents who don't want their kids to trash a new disc. It doesn't cost Hollywood anything if people copy a movie they never would have bought. You have yet to answer my question: how does copying hurt them more than rental, libraries, used copies, borrowing discs from friends, and similar activities? They get no money from those transactions, either. Well?

type-cast

BTW, AnyDVD HD will decrypt HD-DVD and strip region codes off BluRay. DVDFab HD Decrypter is a freeware solution. Both are made out of the repressive USA in countries that have no respect for our bankrupt laws. Why buy DVDs, which are defective? Many of Sony's new DVDs have to be copied just to play. Smart people won't buy defective products and fix them on their own dime. Such products are worthless.

McDahling

I agree with type-cast. I was going to buy the first season of "Lost" a few days ago, but I just added it to my queue. And one of my favorite movies is "The 40-year-old virgin" but I'm not going to buy it, whenever I want it I just pop it in my queue at number 1.

Old Timer Too

Hm. The bigger problems for the studios aren't the users who make single copies of rentals or borrowed discs, but the real pirates from outside the country and actually make a profit from their sales. Those not only cut into studio profits, but they hurt everyone.

In the meantime, if I ever run into another disc like I did with Disney's "The Kid" a few years ago, I'm going to be more than a little upset. Disney finally replaced my copy which would not play on my DVD player, and shipped me a copy of Hercules for all my trouble.

Disney didn't make my player. Today, I own a Sony 5-disc player and if I rent or buy a disc that will not play on it, I'm going to be asking Sony why I should _ever_ consider buying _any_ of the products in the future. I'll be very interested to hear their explanation and how they plan to offset the bother I had, even with a rental. Maybe, just maybe they will wake up a realize that their desire to prevent someone from copying a disc will cost them a lot more in future sales. I've happily used Sony products for well over forty years...

Now, as to legal action, yup. It is about like trying to stop spam. You'll get a few, but the vast majority are going to keep on doing it and no matter how many you do clamp down on, you won't stop all of them.

These folks don't know how to fight a real war. The "war on poverty" (Johnson) fizzled. Bush's war on terrorism is fizzling (and losing him and his party votes) and we're mired in another Viet Nam, costing us sanity, lives, and body parts.

Until this dirt ball comes under a single legal system (and one that has some real teeth in it) and people aren't afraid to throw the book at criminal activity, all we're going to get is irritated and a bunch of lip service.

The music and film industry needs to give it up and the music industry in particular needs to rethink its whole marketing strategy. I've just added another case of where the CD version costs a third more than the DVD version of the same performance (in this case, it is the Phillips' recording of an opera, Prince Igor).

BoB

"BTW, AnyDVD HD will decrypt HD-DVD and strip region codes off BluRay."

It does even more now:
HD-DVD=
Features HD-DVD
* Same features as regular AnyDVD
* Removes encryption (AACS) from HD-DVDs
* watch movies over digital display connection, without HDCP compliant graphics card and HDCP compliant display.
* playback of discs on the PC with PowerDVD Ultra, which otherwise do not run.
* Removes user prohibitions, you can select the language and subtitle track without going through the disc's menu.
* Removes parental restrictions.
* Allows you to remove or skip Studio Logos and warning messages.
* With "magic file replacement ™" you can remaster any commercial movie disc using simple XML scripts.
* The "must have" utility for the serious home theater enthusiast using a media center / home theater PC.
* Includes a UDF 2.5 file ripper, no need to install 3rd party UDF 2.5 filesystem under Windows XP.

Blu-Ray-DVD
Features Blu-Ray
* Same features as regular AnyDVD
* Removes encryption (AACS) from Blu-Ray DVDs
* Removes region codes from Blu-Ray DVDs
* watch movies over digital display connection, without HDCP compliant graphics card and HDCP compliant display.
* The "must have" utility for the serious home theater enthusiast using a media center / home theater PC.
* Includes a UDF 2.5 file ripper, no need to install 3rd party UDF 2.5 filesystem under Windows XP.


I agree with the above post though. The problem is NOT with the casual copier that makes a back-up copy of their legitimate retail disc (kids, pets, etc); but lies with the professional copier that makes copies and then sells them on street corners, flea markets, countries around the world, etc. DRM is only affecting the people that want to protect their investment meanwhile the professional "pirate" is still churning out copies left and right!

"They" even recently suppressed programs like RipIt4Me and FixVTS. FixVTS BTW has a full valid use not in the "pirate" world but has been pulled from most sites anyway after pressure.

type-cast

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[email protected]#K YOU. Try to take down 1.5 million sites.

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type-cast

["They" even recently suppressed programs like RipIt4Me and FixVTS. FixVTS BTW has valid use not in the "pirate" world but has been pulled from most sites anyway after pressure.]

That really made me mad. But AnyDVD stepped up to the plate with their revised ripper in 6.1.4.2 beta. (See Free Codecs dot com.) It generates fully compliant files which can be opened in Shrink, Nero Recode, or any other program. FixVTS will still work on DVDs, but it's getting harder and harder to find. The bastards at Sony are disgraceful, because it was simply a program to repair mangled DVDs and make them compliant with standards. Some DVDs, Like Menace II Society, have "serious mastering errors" and can't be played on all machines as a result. It's a shame that they were able to bully the creator of FixVTS to stop developing it, based on its association with RipIt4Me (a separate program).

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=955202&postcount=14

type-cast

Correction:
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