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banter

I doubt I will use it much but I would use it before Time Warner & Blockbuster.

dAVe

I think the Roku is a nice addition to my home entertainment equipment. For me, I don't think it would ever be considered as a primary source of content but I can see why others might be interested in doing so. $50 dollars towards renting Amazon VOD instead of paying that to Comcast every month would definitely be "Comcastic!"

Del

Unless it has free content, I won't be using it.

Pat

They offer some free content but nothing to write home about. It looked like 5 eps. from Breaking Bad and some scenes from this seasons Battlestar Galactica. There were episodes of some show called How to make a hot girl laugh. Nothing of real interest though. I don't see paying extra to watch movies right then and there when I would most likely have the same movie on my shelf waiting for me in only a few days through netflix.

prozac

Nice but my Verizon Fios is too addictive. The Roku player is improving though.

MCW

Tried to download the update, but there wasn't one yet.

I guess it's a rollout. I am looking to watch the free episode of Fantasy Factory with Rob Dyrdek. It's a pretty funny show, but I missed the first episode.

I will also likely only watch the free stuff, but if you people would take the time to look, there are some cool exclusives Amazon has. They offer a rental of The Great Buck Howard, a movie that isn't even in theaters yet. I'm thinking about checking it out.

Frank

Why does Amazon expire in only 24 hours? I sometimes like to watch a movie over two nights and if I start at the same time every night, I am too late. Why not 26-27 hours? Much more convenient, and won't cost them a dime.

Steve

I must be missing something here. Why pay $3.99 for a rental when you could just wait a day and get it as an actual DVD in the mail for free? I know people are impatient but the math just doesn't work out in a bad economy.
I really think this was a bad idea and not the direction that Netflix should have gone. I can't see anybody using it. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I certainly won't be using it unless they provide more free content.

noor

if a movie expires in 24 hours is suck because some people dont want to watch over and over and over till they think oh i got enough of it. i think i will stick to netflix more.

MCW

"I really think this was a bad idea and not the direction that Netflix should have gone. I can't see anybody using it. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I certainly won't be using it unless they provide more free content."

All of you are missing the fact that Roku is not owned by Netflix. Roku can add whatever video providers they want, without Netflix's approval. This is why it is called the Roku Digital Video Player. Roku is its own company, and they could care less what Disc rentals you could get in 1 day. They want to make money off of your Amazon rentals on their box.

The fact that this is posted on HackingNetflix is only because the Roku player was the first and most obvious choice for people who wanted to stream Netflix movies on their televisions. Netflix was Roku's first digital video partner, and obviously not their last.

Craig

MCW said:
"Roku is its own company, and they could care less what Disc rentals you could get in 1 day."

@MCW:
I think you meant "...they couldn't care less..."

David

Craig: it's a losing battle. What might have once started as an ironic riff on "couldn't care less" has entered the common parlance so deeply that it's the de facto standard way of expressing the sentiment. I just wince and move on.

colinnwn

@Craig and David
I agree the original wording is more appropriate, but I have always taken the alternate phrase "...could care less" to mean I could care less, but it would be hard to.

Del

Woo Hoo!

Just got an e-mail from Roku about this and guess what?

And for a limited time, the 2009 SI Swimsuit Show will be also be offered for free.

ZeroCorpse

The way I see it, this makes the Roku player the same as the Apple TV, minus music downloads (thus far).

Actually, scratch that. It makes the Roku BETTER than the Apple TV, because you have a selection of New Releases that you can rent for a reasonable price, but you also have a bunch of older titles that you can get for free from Netflix.

This move makes the Roku a far better value than the Apple TV. I had one, and I have to say I like the Roku much better. Why should I pay iTunes to rent an older movie like "So I Married an Axe Murderer" when I can stream it for free from Netflix?

Good move, Roku! Keep it up!

Gran

Unless it has free content, I won't be using it.

Better yet, why not make everything free? We Americans sure are spoiled, Geez!

banter

No update for me yet...too bad I want to check this out.

nahdude

If I ever get a roku, I'll never use it but whatever...more options is always better I suppose

MCW

Craig: it's a losing battle

I'm glad that you read only one word in my sentence. I will start writing only one word from now on, and I will spell it wrong or use it in a way that you do not agree with (Though I can use it anyway I want, because phrases are made up by people like you and me, and they can be changed to fit anyone's needs or way of speech) just to get on your nerves.

WHAT I SAID WAS: ROKU COULD CARE LESS, BECAUSE THEY COULD AT ANY TIME DECIDE THAT THEY CARE EVEN LESS THAN THEY DID THE DAY BEFORE.

A-holes.

EH

Isn't there some trick for getting it to force the update?

EH

Also, MCW? David was defending your usage. Take a nap.

PLB

This was an expected change. Amazon on Roku was announced a couple months ago. At that time YouTube was also rumored. I expect the little Roku box to gain in content yet again this year.

Amazon content on Roku will be great for some people, good for some, and irrelevant for yet others.

I have Comcast with Starz and HD. As it happens I can't discontinue these services even if I wanted to, so I won't be swidhing. I also have a Redbox machine in my local supermarket. I have a new DVD player and a NetFlix subscription.

Will I in fact use Amazon on Roku? Who knows? I have about 90 NetFlix DVDs in my queue and a similar number in my "Watch Instantly" queue. I am not deprived of content.

The main reason I probably won't use it much is that I prefer HD to SD. If a movie is available on Starz HD (either broadcast or OnDemand) I will watch it there becaus it has for me no marginal cost. If however there is a movie exclusively available on HBO or Showtime so that I can never see it, I can rent the DVD from NetFlix or pick it up at Redbox. Now, I suppose I could get it from Amazon but it would only be in 4:3 SD. A DVD will be in 16:9 ED. I don't generally pay for SD - it doesn't look as good on my 110" screen.

I watch a lot of Roku/NetFlix content. For example: Heroes - HD and free, Maverick - SD and free. On my setup Roku HD 720p is indistinguishable from Starz OnDemand HD 1080i(?). I expect Amazon and NetFlix to expand their HD offerings. At that point I might rent a couple HD movies a year from Amazon.

A lot may depend on Menu structure. The Roku menu structure is pretty primitive but Comcast's is even worse.

For now I expect I might use Amazon on Roku to see previews.

S

Paying for new releases might appeal to some people who aren't willing to wait for snail mail. Personally, Amazon's VOD seems like a feature I would never use. I'd rather wait a couple days and save the money for something more important.

fruitloops

In the next few months I'm going to drop my internet completely and just keep my netflix account. I'll just update it every once in a while if I'm at a friends house or at an internet café or at work.

I can't be bothered paying all his money just to reorganize my queue, check email, and stream the occasional movie. Think about it with the amount of money I soend on internet I could get one of the higher netflix plans...without actually having the internet. It's not like I use the internet for anyhting else.

Pat

I'm curious to see what happens with the possibility of Hulu being added now that Amazon is on Roku. Hulu offers many TV shows for free while Amazon offers them for $0.99 an episode. I don't see how Amazon would be happy about Roku adding Hulu. I hope Roku did not agree to avoid adding Hulu as a part of the deal with Amazon.

It would be nice if Amazon offered a monthly unlimited fee. Allowing us to add 2 movies/shows per 24 hours but keeping them until we want to replace them with another. I can see more of us paying a monthly fee knowing that we don't have to lose a movie within 24 hours. That's why netflix works in the first place. I've had a movie for the last month that my wife and I have not watched yet. When we do, I'm sure one of the kids will interrupt and we will not be able to finish it for another few days.

ZeroCorpse

People are missing the real benefit of this new Roku feature... Getting NEW episodes of TV shows (particularly cable series) without needing to subscribe to cable TV. You can subscribe to shows, just like in iTunes, and watch them on your Roku.

Battlestar Galactica for $1.99 an episode is a pretty decent deal.

Yeah, we Netflix customers can rent new releases from Netflix, but TV shows don't end up on Netflix for months (or years) after they've aired, and Hulu doesn't have everything.

With the Amazon Video feature, you'll be able to watch the newest episode of your favorite show usually within 24 hours of it airing. Without commercials. To keep. With DVR-like functions.

This is a good idea, and it really does increase the appeal of the Roku.

PLB

I subscribed to the Roku/Amazon service last night. I use Amazon a lot anyway. I bought nine books from them last month as well as my new video projector, cables and other electronic goodies. It was easy. It took about ten minutes. If you have an Amazon account you just sign on and make up a five digit PIN.


The menu structure is not bad. It's like a superset of the Roku/NetFlix style menu.


The image quality of the Amazon broadcasts is sub DVD quality. I watched the promoted movie "The Journey to the Center of the Earth" which cost only $0.99 instead of the average $2.99 or $3.99. The image is not HD but it is 16:9. The image is watchable but clearly lower quality than the DVD or Comcast broadcast or OnDemand. I had seen this movie about a month ago on a DVD. I rented at RedBox.

There is a lot of TV content almost all of which costs $1.99 per episode irrespective of the length. That means an old 1950s Superman black and white half hour show costs the same as last week's hour long color episode of House. For some reason there are a few TV shows that cost $7.99.

In summary the Amazon service offers only a few attractions for the NetFlix subscriber. For a new big movie release like Taken which should come onto the market in a month or so, you could watch it in the best very quality from a NetFlix Blu-ray disk for a $1 a month surcharge. Or you could watch a very good quality DVD for marginally free. Or you could watch it in even better broadcast 1080 HD on Starz or HBO for marginally free if you had the right service. Or you could watch it in excellent 1080 HD on Comcast OnDemand for $5.99 or a very good 4:3 SD for $3.99. Finally you could watch it for $3.99 on Amazon but it would have the worst image of all the alternatives.


The Amazon service at present is not competitive for first run movies. Nor is it competitive for a lot of TV shows. There have been about 80 episodes of Heroes. These are marginally free in superb 720p HD on NetFlix/Roku but cost two bucks each on Amazon in a slightly fuzzy SD.

There are some cases where the Amazon service makes sense but not many. If I was bored and had nothing else to watch I might pay two bucks to watch an old Cadfael8 episode. I could have NetFlix mail it to me for free but if I wanted right now I might use Amazon. Cadfael is not a show with high quality visuals so the lower PQ wouldn't matter. BTW although the Amazon catalog of BBC TV shows is large, I couldn't find Derek Jacobi's other series I Claudius.

Scott

The LG Player got You Tube along with Netflix. Is the LG Blu-Ray Network player going to get Amazon?

Diana

The only reason I watched anything from the Amazon addition was to see if the buffering issue I have is really Netflix or if it is Roku. It is Roku and now that they can’t blame Netflix they are blaming Limelight. This box is a headache. I keep it on my desk to hold papers and remind me to read reviews at forums before I spend money. My advice is to stay with Netflix they have great service and great prices.

TheCrow

Sorry..but until Roku can handle subtitles or CC, I'm not interested.

banter

Video quality is veru good on this. Roku was certainly worth the $99

PLB

I forgot to mention that while I was test watching Journey to the Center of the Earth on Amazon/Roku, the video stream broke and it reloaded. It was only a few seconds but this had never happened on NetFlix/Roku.

Kevin H

HD! HD! HD! HD! HD! HD! HD!
And when I say HD! I mean 1080p, not 1080i or 720p. Amazon needs to get it together and fast. I am on the verge of getting a Vudu player for two reasons.

#1: Vudu has 1080p content
#2: With Vudu you can keep the movie you rent UNWATCHED for 30 days (even though once you press play it expires 24 hours after, which is also stupid, but better than Amazon).

Hulu would be a GREAT addition to Roku as well. YouTube anyone?

The Roku player has so much potential and I
am happy and can't wait to see all of it come to pass!!! :D

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They offer some free content but nothing to write home about. It looked like 5 eps. from Breaking Bad and some scenes from this seasons Battlestar Galactica. There were episodes of some show called How to make a hot girl laugh. Nothing of real interest though. I don't see paying extra to watch movies right then and there when I would most likely have the same movie on my shelf waiting for me in only a few days through netflix.

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