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I'd hate to hear that the studios and retailers are in collusion together. I mean, that would never happen right?


That sounds like an illegal form of collusion.


How is that collusion --or-- illegal? You just like using those big words, don't you?

Dusty T

Truthfully, I don't care. This is just going to be a pain here are my options that I use

1) Can I get it on netflix stream or rent...if stream watch if rent how long? If it isn't avaible now I go to option two

2) Does redbox have it online in a local redbox if so I rent it if not I go to option three

3) Do I want to buy this title if so I will buy it if not I will either torrent or wait till option 1 or 2 are open.

Truthfully I used to torrent alot but now that I have a job and life I don't mind the wait. I guess I'm not a huge renter like I used to be.


maybe i'm retarded, but i'm not understanding how this will force redbox to wait 28 days for new releases.

can someone explain this to me????


To date Redbox has only been able to stock at most 30% of their machines with titles being restricted. They were purchasing a majority of those at local Walmarts and Targets. Now that spicket is shout off and for them to access enough titles will force them to pay more at a Sams Club who charges $20.00 per DVD unlike Walmart who sells them for $15.00. Also the cost for these employees driving all over the country side just went up. Redbox is in trouble they backed themselves into a corner with these lawsuits and can't find a way out now..


Being that Sams Club is owned by Wal-mart, why would they continue selling DVDs above the limit?


what's the incentive for walmart or target? if they're getting a cut form the studios that does seem like collusion.


If nobody bought them the price would come down, it's all greed.If the VOD movies were cheaper they rent more and make more in the long run.


I've never used Redbox before and think it would be a good alternative to Netflix for new releases.

However, I just picked two randoms movies from my Netflix queue that have "very long waits" and looked them up on the Redbox website. All of the Redbox locations in my zip code show "CHECKED OUT" for the movie statuses.

It looks you can reserve movies from the website but this doesn't seem much more convenient than using Netflix and just waiting.


If any Redbox employee is standing in front of me or behind me at Target I'll purchase 5 copies of whatever you want for a $1 a piece surcharge.


I don't really see how this is going to work, they could just buy 5 copies at a time going to different cashiers or different stores, or have multiple people buy 5 copies each, hell that is what I do when there is a sale on something that has a limit per customer and I want to stock up at the low price.


This is an outrage. I am cancelling my Netflix subscription becuase of this.


That's useful, David. That's what the studios want you to do. They don't want us renting anything. They barely want us to go to see a movie in a theater. They want us to snap up every piece of crap they slap on a Blu-ray disc instead.


Oh well. More business for the bootleg DVD sellers downtown. Now they can sell REALLY good copies for a month before they get get mass distribution. I don't know why the entertainment industry is hell bent on making people obtain stuff illegally.


Chernobyl, that was a joke. I was feeding off the sentiment around here by some people who find everything that netflix does extremely offensive and they boldly state they are cancelling their subscription.

I guess the other tactic I could have used was stated - what an outrage, I will never buy another DVD from WalMart again.


Hey wait doesn't Amazon benifit from this? Someone has to sell them the videos. If Block Buster was smart they buy them up and sell it to them on the side LOL. This way they can stay a float.


I thought it was illegal to buy a retail DVD and have people pay you to rent it from you. (what seemingly redbox is doing)



It's completely legal. If you purchase a movie, it is yours and you can do whatever you want with it, including renting it out!

The movies Redbox carries are no different from the kind you would pick up at, say... Wal-Mart. Or Target.

A Movie A Day (AMAD)

I do work at Wal-Mart, and yes, my store does have a Redbox kiosk in store, which is strange because the kiosk is blue, but that's beside the point.

After all is said and done, if I really want a movie, I will buy it outright. If I don't want to purchase a certain title or want to give a title a spin before parting with my well earned cash an a retail copy, I will rent it.

But I do not want to rent from Redbox. I've heard too many horror stories about the condition of discs that people have rented, like they won't play, scratched all to hell, how the read side of a disc is one big fingerprint, there's foreign "stuff" (to put it nicely) on the disc, and so on, etc., etc.

I like the viewing schedule I have at Netflix, in which I space out the titles I watch so I recieve 4 movies on Tuesday and Friday and two movies the other days of the week, thus bringing my cost for films down to under a dollar each, and way cheaper than Redbox, and isn't that what we're all trying to do, anyways?

Walt D in LV

Okay, I guess what was happening was that Redbox was going in and buying all the copies of a particular title from Wal-mart and/or Target, to load up their kiosks. No problem, I would think, at first, since that's what stores want to do: sell out. However, this made the normal Wal-mart/Target customers mad because there weren't any copies available for them.

As has been stated, the 5-copy limit only slows down the Redbox buyer(s) since they could just buy multiple times or use multiple buyers.

I agree completely that the bootleggers who, for about $5 or so, sell poor quality versions of movies in the theaters, now can sell excellent quality versions of movies not available to rent.

@A Movie A Day (AMAD)
I've used Redbox a handful/dozen of times in my life, though probably not in the last year, and there was never a problem. The movies were just like a video store, maybe a fingerprint, but nothing that couldn't wipe off, and never any scratches like DVDs from the library have. I tried 'em out, and their great, a very good $ deal, but I don't use Redbox anymore because here in Las Vegas, I haven't found any Redbox kiosks that carry Blu-rays.

Dollar for dollar, selection, speed of service.. there is certainly nothing better than Netflix.

Walt D in LV


" If you purchase a movie, it is yours and you can do whatever you want with it, including renting it out!"

Actually you can't do "anything" with it. For instance you can't display it publicly and charge admission, but ironically you can rent it out over and over again. Makes no sense.


A few weeks ago, I started seeing RedBox employees buying large amounts of the same movie. The next week, we got word to limit the amount of new release movies to 5 per guest. The reasoning was that we are selling then At Cost on the week of release. There is no incentinve for the stores to sell something and NOT make money. All stores reserve the right to limit quantities, but they rearly need do so.



Good point, I had neglected that.

So you can do almost anything with a DVD you purchase, outside of showing it at a public event without going through the proper channels. But I think this applies to a very small minority.


I had no idea this is how RedBox got their movies. Seems a little weird.


Best Buy doesn't have a limit and they price match Wal-Mart and Target.

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