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Kory said:
>Perhaps they will stop allowing the rentals of their movies all together

You misunderstand. The copyright owners have NOTHING to do with "allowing" rentals.


These "delays" are VOLUNTARY agreements between companies, presumably to lower prices paid for DVDs. (Now, streaming definitely requires different agreements.)

Lonesome Rhodes

If I'm not going to buy a DVD given a 28-day window, would a 60-day or 90-day window change my mind?

If both Netflix and Redbox would agree to a 60-day or 90-day window, I might consider a surviving rental store like Family Video or a $4.95 on-demand "same day as dvd".

Rob H

All this is going to do is encourage online piracy. It's embarrassingly easy to find a 720p copy of a film even before its release. Forcing legitimate customers to wait 28 days, let alone 60, to rent a movie is a disgrace. Full films can be had in a matter of minutes if you're morally ambiguous -- if the studios are serious about stopping piracy, stop steering us in that direction by making it difficult to rent.

f'u Time Warner

If they do this i will just download for free off the net i don't have time for corporate bs anymore f'em.


Why do they want to hurt us the consumers? We vote with our wallets.

We keep these companies alive by paying them. We can cut off the life support....

Some people will just torrent search for flicks and the MPAA will send lawsuits and people will throw them in the trash & who knows what will happen.

As your IP address tells where you are for those thinking of pirating... There is some ways to try & mask it. However how effective it really is. You should just think twice....Is it worth it?

All because studios like Warner wanna dangle these movies in our faces like carrots on a string.

This is just signs of change that is happening. The traditional model is going away & these companies like the old ways.


I pretty much only rent disks to watch television shows. The only movies I really get from Netflix, I get streaming. It's cool rediscovering classics or finding new little gems. The delay impacts me exactly 0%.


WB won't get an extra cent from me with this thinking. I have so many entertainment alternatives all it does is make me hate their brand.

Hey look, there's a running race I can spend my time and money on! Hey look, the zoo is holding an open house! There's a local music festival in the park!

Get it, WB? Concentrate on making quality product, not creating artificial scarcity.


Curious I hadn't read that DVD sales were increasing. And this site shows just the opposite http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/thisweek.php


It is perfectly understandable for any business to want to maximize its profits.

However, the movie studios are obviously bound and determined to do so by any means necessary, no matter the cost in PR. This is going to lead them to the same place the music labels currently find themselves: hated and despised by the very people they rely upon for revenue.

The comments on here are only a sampling of what is to come. When the average joe, who doesn't pay close attention to news like this, starts wondering why he can't rent the movie that's been advertised like crazy because rentals are blocked for 6 months, there will be a backlash.


This kind of Corporate thinking is retarded. All they care about is profit margins but the actual truth is that pushing these delays further will absolutely promote more piracy.

These studios want everyone to buy DVD's and Blu-rays at full price when in fact people mostly just want to rent a movie.
Most of us want to watch a movie once or twice, so buying it is just a complete waste of money. Besides the very few movies that are actually worth buying; i.e. The Dark Knight, most of us rent movies and not buy them.

Seriously, is this concept so hard to understand?


They also seem to be forgetting that there is a recession, a lot of people are unemployed so those "impulse purchases" of DVD's at the checkout stand or wherever are not going to happen at the clip they used to.

People don' t have the money for DVD's when they are spending their little discretionary income on maybe going out for a burger,or renting a movie and ordering a pizza. Even those with a few bucks realize what a waste it is buying all these dumb DVD's that sit and collect dust.


LOL well Netflix lives to serve the studios now. It was nice when they actually fought the good fight for customers but they don't do that anymore.

They sold us out for 30 day windows and it's a short trip to 45 and 60 day windows. It's going to happen. Maybe around when Netflix sells itself so Reed Hastings can pretend he didn't have anything to do with it.

RIP Netflix


Warner can demand this all they want, they just can't legally enforce it. It will only work if Netflix agrees with it. As far as I am concerned the 28 day release window is fine, but if the studios choose to increase that window, then Netflix and Redbox should simply not comply and get all the films on release day, eliminating the 28 day window altogether. This is a stupid move by the studios, it will increase piracy.


Seems to me the net result would be more of a shift towards PPV. If OnDemand is willing to give the studios a much bigger cut, it would be no surprise if the studios were leaning towards that being the favorable rental model and seeking every way possible to take Netflix and Redbox out of the new release rental game.

Should be a boon for small, local rental shops and Blockbuster for those still determined to rent a DVD.

I'm a little surprised that the end result is an increase in DVD sales. I thought Wal-Mart and Target had stopped the heavy promotion of DVDs by moving them away from the high traffic sections. Seemed like Best Buy was scaling back their DVD business as well.

So where are all these increases in sales coming from? Online?

As content owners, they do have the right to decide how their properties are distributed to a certain degree. While they can't force Netflix to not buy their DVDs from retail sources for the purposes of rentals, they can certainly pressure their distributors and big store customers to not sell in bulk to Netflix and Red Box.


I'll wait. Plenty of old stuff to catch up on in the meanwhile.


I'm a relatively new Netflix subscriber and signed on only a few months before the 28-day window went into effect. For the most part, it isn't really an issue and I just wait it out. For the few movies I don't feel like waiting on, I still just go grab a torrent. If more movies go into longer delays, I will probably torrent more. I expect some others will do the same.

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