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bonzo

Most special features, I don't care about.
Captions & subtitles? I might look into an Americans w/ Disabilities Act (ADA) law suit for that.

Kayla

It can't possibly be legal to remove the captions from rental discs.

Bill

Unless it continues to happen on new discs, the studio will just claim a one-time mistake on the authoring of the rental copy. If they do continue the practice, there will likely be some issue over the discriminatory practice.

Julian

I don't care. I just want to watch the movie.

Nic

I completely care about the special features.

There are some movies I want to own and add to my collection. There are others where I'm curious to watch them and enjoy the features. This is a terrible example, but I rented Twilight: Eclipse (don't judge me!) and I mainly wanted to listen to the commentaries. Unfortunately, the Eclipse netflix bluray was just the movie. (I watched Eclipse twice in the theaters and I used OnDemand to watch Scott Pilgrim since the studios are pushing back the netflix release date.)

The economy is bad; we're moving to digital/streaming - why punish movie junkies.

I admit it's smart to dangle the specials to make you buy - - but all it does is deprive fans.

Pappy

I don't care about special features, personally, but that doesn't mean this isn't lame. Some people want to watch how movies were made, interviews, etc. etc. and I completely identify with Nic. I watched a Hellraiser movie that was so bad I had to listen to the commentary to see if the director would apologize for the entire run time about what a piece of crap his movie was.

He didn't, by the way.

Still, there are movies where you really want that stuff and since you rented it, why not rent it all?

Tobias

Hey studios, trying too hard makes you look desperate, and therefore less attractive. If the movie is worth owning, people will buy it without you having to resort to such tactics.

I hereby refuse to buy any movie that is not made available to rent on NetFlix, fully featured, on the same day it is available for sale.

SouthPaw

It is a federal crime to make an accessibility feature a SKU item. You can't force a handicapped person to purchase or rent a more expensive version of a product to get the accessibility feature. This was put into law because of car rental companies that were charging outrageous rate for accessibility cars.

SuperScuba

It definitely depends on the movie, but I'd say yes in general, I do care about special features. However, I really can't blame the studios for this. They are obviously losing money and I'm ok with this compromise.

dave

Bonus features don't "complete" my movie watching experience. While they're nice to have, I wouldn't miss them. I never buy a DVD just for the features. I buy it because I want to watch it repeatedly. I doubt this crippling will encourage more sales. Rentals have been around for years. They're not suddenly causing a drop in sales. It's the economy and switch to digital, stupid.

Roger

It doesn't bother me that studios are trying to create "value added" sales by only offering certain features on discs you purchase. The movie is available for rental and if you love it enough you can buy the disc that comes with bonus features. It seems less offensive then reissuing the same movie on DVD, throwing in a featurette and then calling it the Ultimate Edition. In the end I see this as a last gasp for DVD sales, which are declining rapidly.

parv

If an extra feature that I am interested in has been removed, I certainly will not buy the disc despite how much I would like to purchase one. I will also actively avoid renting the the disks from that studio.

Shellie

Bonus features don't "complete" my movie watching experienc either. The only time I watch the additional features is on the rare occasion when I purchase a DVD.

DJBullwinkle

There's absolutely no excuse for removing the captions from the rental copies of Up.

As far as removing other bonus features, while the studios are free to do whatever they like, it's a jerk move in my opinion. I often find the special features to be interesting, but I rarely ever watch them more than once. So, for me, buying a DVD just for the special features makes no sense at all.

Mike

I'm 100% fine with them removing special features from rental copies. Bonus features are part of the replay value of the disc in my opinion. If I want to replay the disc multiple times and it's a movie that I obviously care enough about to want to watch the bonus features, than I should go out and buy it.

That's how I always make my disc purchases anyway these days :\

Karl

I don't mind that they remove the bonus features. I do think it's annoying that they make it look as if they're on the rental disc then tell you to go buy it if you want to see them. I'd rather they just took them out of the menu instead of giving false hope to renters.

Tim

If it's a movie I thoroughly enjoyed I will watch the extras before I send it back. I am not a fan of these dirty tricks to get you to buy the discs. I don't buy discs for special features, I buy them because I love the movie and feel it is worthy of multiple viewings.

Larry

We need the captions in my household. This needs to be changed.

Keiko

I guess the studios think that we will all run out and BUY the DVD or bluray in order to get the special features. Or they want to punish the rental customer base. This is a key customer base that they should be cultivating and not pissing off.

I will not buy a DVD unless I have already watched it via rental. Also, I love watching movies, but there are very few that I would purchase. The studios are not gaining anything by removing these features except contempt from DVD rental customers.

In addition, removing captioning from DVD seems to be a violation of the Americans w/ Disabilities Act.

Studios need to rethink their approach to DVD renters. Instead of stripping away material, they could put more promotional material on the rental DVDs. They should take advantage of the audience that is interested in their products, not punishing them.

Bill

I'm not going to buy the DVD. I've been inclined to buy things I'm interested in: first Iron Man, The Watchmen. But I rarely buy DVDs when they come out. Instead I own things I know I like and know I'll watch over and over. The original King Kong, Blade Runner, Alien(s), The Day the Earth Stood Still, Gosford Park and various musicals from the forties, fifties and sixties. It's a combination of knowing this is something I really want as well as having a place to physically store yet more stuff.

The problem here is if I feel like it's being forced on me to buy, then I'll resist. It's not even an actual decision to do so. It's just what I'll do because I don't like being manipulated or controlled in such a manner. If it comes to that, I'll read a book or buy a video camera and make my own movies. I think there may come a time when folk art becomes a much larger force as people get fed up with the commercial aspects of getting access to film and music and just make their own.

As far as the specials go? I've seen a time or two the specials were as good or better than the actual movie. But that's very rare. Once in a while seeing the deleted scenes will help in understanding the movie and you're left to wonder why they took this or that scene out. Ok, maybe for the theatrical release time was an issue but for the DVD release why not put it back in?

But seriously... I really don't feel any need to watch a gag reel. Those things live down to their name: enough to make you gag. Some of the "mistakes" look fake and then when they make a gag reel for an animated film it brings it all home. What could be perceived as a humorous take on the obnoxious gag reel ends up being a little too close to what they are: stupid.

And captions. I really, really like them and want them even more than I like them because it comes into the area of need since I'm a bit hard of hearing. And as it's been mentioned I agree that I don't see how they get away with this legally. A small independent film I can excuse but the so-called blockbusters? All it does it make me resent them.

The captions are also good for watching British movies (which I do a lot). I have trouble getting it all sometimes especially when there's slang. The captions help a lot. Believe it or not it's as if I can hear faster when I have the text and it takes longer for me to process what's being said when I don't. I realize they're speaking English but I still find it harder to get without the captions. And if it's a Scottish movie I may as well turn the sound off if I'm without the captions.

As far as I'm concerned the studios can keep pushing their luck and they'll end up with like the music industry: wondering what happened. You can blame illegal downloading on falling sales numbers all you like but the fact of the matter it isn't the 70s anymore. I can remember a time when I'd buy a record and like every track on the record. Yes, I liked some more than others. But I liked them all. Buy an album now and find you may as well have bought individual tracks. Is this what they call supply-side economics? Where they decide what you want and what you will buy? No thanks. I'll pass. I listen to a lot of popular music and go back to older stuff. I know I'm old but my history has not been one of restricting myself to some "golden era." I've embraced new music on a sustained basis until some point in the 90s ('94 maybe?) when something shifted. Something changed. I don't know how much big companies like Clear Channel were getting involved but even stations like WHFS (progressive radio in DC) were becoming less progressive and more boring. So is rock and roll controlled by accountants these days? Created by CPAs for CPAs?

The music business has become too much business and not enough music. And if you think otherwise, just listen to FM radio. Sometimes you can't find the music as you troll the stations where you're most likely to find the kind of music you like. You can't hear the forest for the advertisements. Believe me, in the 70s FM was much different. Much. And, no, I'm not so much pining for the old days as much as looking at things critically and thinking "this is what we have now and it isn't always better."

Back to the studios: keep up; I still know where the library is. And I always like the book better than the movie. I like the movie, I want the movie but if you don't give me what I want, I'll do something else.

To quote the Jefferson Airplane: got a revolution, got to revolution. And it seems to me the reason is that change comes when we try escape someone else's control.

Yeah, I know. Verbose. But that's my ten dollars and two cents (adjusted for inflation).

Mike

I personally use captions and so it's difficult for me to enjoy a movie without them. Most DVDs will employ captions similar to those on TV broadcasts. However, those captions don't usually go through on HDMI so captions are actually necessary.

Gir

Lets be clear, the studios are not renting us these disks. Netflix is complicit; they've chosen to rent us these disks rather than pay for the full retail versions.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing necessarily - keeping costs down is good for the customer - just saying that this time it's not all the studios fault.

Ewingo401

I can completely understand removing bonus features, but it has got to be illegal to remove closed captioning. I hope someone in the know looks into this.

Pete

We all like getting extras, but overall if you had to choose between the film and listening to a commentary or watching a 15 min featurette which would you choose? Id go with the film every time. Netflix and streaming is going to take over no matter what the studios do. People want to watch movies quickly/conveniently. If they have to lose the extras, they will.

Amanda

Damnit! Why are they ruining EVERYTHING? Some of us don't like clutter. Some of us can't afford to purchase DVDs. I for one love the special features. I enjoy the commentaries and I LOVE gag reels if they're included. I just don't have room to purchase discs that I'll only watch MAYBE once. Why are they punishing the consumer?

Who cares how we get the movie; consumers should be their first priority, not their money grubbing board members. No one suffers from this bullshit fighting between studios and Netflix more than the consumer.

andyg8180

special features... i can live without... Closed Captioning, like everyone else, has got to be a federal crime...

You cant discrimintate... I smell super lawsuit abrewin... And i would be totally behind whomever pulls the trigger and starts it

siciliano66

corporate greed, they should be ashamed of themselves. How many times should be buy or rent the same film...!?

things

Could not care less. I never want anything but the movie.

Ryan

Most special features aren't worth the disc they're encoded on. As far as captions, if I was hearing impaired I would absolutely look into as a violation of ADA.

cj

I hope they get sued for taking CC off. I could care less of extra features.

Patrick

Special features are probably a dying breed anyway.
There are no special features on any of the digital rental systems, are there? I never see them on my Zune and Apple rentals.

Yssup Tae

despicable to remove the subtitles for the hearing impaired. i hope the most severe legal action is brought against them.

the special features do not bother me but putting them on the disc a teaser/advertisement does.

Japzone

I understand removing the Special Features, (My Blind Side Disc didn't have anything but English Track and Hearing Impaired Subs) but Removing the Subs? I find that very wrong.

I have 2 Handicapped in my house and I know that depriving a Special Needs of what they need because they didn't Pay More is Absolutely Unacceptable! It's one thing if you don't Provide Subs in any of your Copies but Removing it in just the Rental copy is bs.

Even I like to have Subs. I Rip my DVDs to my HTPC (only ones I own) for Easy viewing and access (experience with Stepped/Scratched on Discs) and If the TV Show/Movie didn't come with Subs I always Head over to Opensubtitles.org and get the Free OpenSource Subs from there.

But Obviously I can't Rip the Rentals so that means I can't get Subs for them, So I need for it to come with the DVD.

Removing Subtitles from Rentals is Very Wrong, and should be(and Probably is) Illegal.

Deaf Ex-Customer

Shame on Disney? How about shame on Netflix for failing to caption its Watch Instantly library when the movies and TV shows' DVDs have closed captioning. Netflix has only provided captions for mostly B movies, and at a rate that would take 30-something years to caption its entire library. Not only that, when Netflix does caption something, it does not tell you in any way or form if it is available on Watch Instantly. A random person's BLOG has been doing this: http://ncmacasl.blogspot.com/2010/10/netflix-instantwatch-titles-with.html

John Brehm

I can do without the extras, but as everyone else is saying I think they might get a legal battle if they continue to take our captions and subtitles. Probably the same if they remove other spoken languages from the DVD as well...

shorty j

wow, as a hearing-impaired person who depends heavily on captions to watch movies, this kinda makes me want to cry. It's such a random choice, too--I can almost see the logic behind removing the bonus features to encourage sales, but removing the captions is just picking on the small number of us who need and want them. :/

Zarathud

Complain to Netflix. They have the option of buying the non-rental version.

david v

wow, if they're removing CC from rentals (which is insane) i'm seriously worried they might start sending out rental copies of foreign movies with only the crappy english dub as a viewing option.

Or even throwing out Dolby TrueHD and DTS blu ray audio for the 5.1 audio from the DVD, who knows...

justin

Bonus features removed is them being stupid.

Captions removed is them being insane.

The Crow

I can't watch a movie without captions or subtitles. It's bad enough when Netflix lists a movie and shows that it has them and when I receive the movie it doesn't , but in this day and age there is no reason why ANY dvd should not have at least CC. It is sad because there are so many movies I would love to see but can not.

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