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S

"In an interesting twist, Redbox and Blockbuster haven't agreed to the delay and will probably have to acquire the DVDs through other channels (please send in photos if you see somone buying all the DVDs from Walmart)."

I think this kind of proves my argument that Netflix sold us out...

Daniel L

Just curious, how did they sell us out?

Daniel L

Nevermind...I read the quote wrong.

Smy

I dropped streaming on the last price hike. I've missed out on new releases and have found myself supplementing certain movies with Redbox to avoid months of queue wait.

I am wondering if it might be time to give Blockbuster another chance, since it's under new management and I have a store literally two minutes drive away.

Crow550

Wouldn't it be easier for these companies to order the discs online?

Instead of in store. Since some stores have a limit on new releases?

Tvaddic

S Blockbuster and Redbox probably won't have the dvds the day they release, first they have to go buy them, which would be more expensive, so don't be suprised if the price increases soon. And what if there are limited quanties of the film, this way Netflix makes sure they have the number of films, it sucks, but is way cheaper for them.

ScottZ

It is becoming clear that Netflix is the best option for low cost and selection at the cost of new releases.

This works fine for me as I don't watch many new releases, their is plenty of quality content I watch from the past 50 years to keep me busy.

FR

It fascinating reading some comments about netflix selling out or blaming netflix in general comparing them to redbox or BB. Netflix is trying to secure this deal that involves not just DVD, but streamed content. It is cheaper for them. Redbox does not have to worry about streaming so STOP comparing them in that fashion. BB on the other hand is following that dumb paradigm (that hosed them time and again) that spending more than they have will make them winners.

Honestly, I appreciate what Netflix has done to keep the library large and wide, why not send more hate to WB ... seriously ...

My queue is so long in DVD and streaming that I never even notice it. If I wanted to see it so bad I would have seen it in the theatre. If I waited 3-6 months for it in DVD i can wait a few more months for it. Gotta say, if you are lazy and laid back, Netflix works, but if you are always in a rush ... well that's on you ...

Robert Emmerich

Not much of a positive spin put on the news by nf this time, unlike the last window which was going to guarantee us nobody ever had a wait again.

Lets face it, when they decided to spin off Qwikster, they stopped caring about DVDs. 56 days, 156 days, they don't care, as long as they get the streaming rights. And really, if anybody does care, all the blame belongs to Warner.

Bernard

Would it be possible to find out what Warner Bros. are being released for the month? I would like to wait the 56 days and not give them my theater money..

FearNo1

Well this is kind of expected since netflix wants to focus more on streaming the future. I hope netflix used this to get a better streaming deal for WB movies. No word on that.

56 days - I don't care

56 days!

I couldn't care less.

There is no movie ever made that I would ever get anxious over waiting 56, 112 or 365 days to see.
And as far as purchasing, I only purchase used disks.
They look almost the same as the movies on new disks ;).

moviegeek

What next...112 days...224 days...448 days?
Eventually Netflix will have to grow a pair and say no more delays. If that means higher subscription fees then so be it.

BTW: if you think BB is any better you are wrong, I tried them two months ago and it took them over one week to send a disc even though it said it was available.

WhatsayYou

I too, could care less, Is the "entertainment" better of these Hollywood movies, two months earlier? NOT! The majority of them are crap or close to it to begin with, what's the rush!?

Hiedi

I frankly don't care. *IF* it's a title I want to buy, I'll buy it outright. Otherwise I'm going to wait to see it. WB can either rent me the disk now so I can make up my mind to buy it or not now or they can wait 2, 3 or 6 months or longer for me to watch the movie. Frankly, the longer I have to wait to watch a movie, the less likely I will *buy* the disk.

I've got probably about 300 disks in my TV quene (just finishing up babylon 5) and then A team and MASH, plus true blood, Boardwalk empire, Nurse Jackie and Smallville to catch up on. Hubby has 500 disks in his queue (mostly animie) my queue has all the new releases and last time I looked, I was at 450 titles. I just add new stuff to it and when it gets here, we watch it. If I want to see it really bad, when the release date pops up I move it to my #1 spot. I don't worry about when it will get here considering all the other crap I want to watch. The queue the kids share (sponge bob, mighty morphin power rangers, Hanna Montana, suite life of zach and cody) is at least 300 disks long last time they were adding stuff to it. So they have plenty to watch while waiting out WB.

I do supplement with redbox, but I live out in on the corner of middle of but frack Egypt and middle of nowhere with 5 red box machines (at the walmart, IGA, and 3 7-11's) so in the winter time it sometimes takes them until that Wednesday or even Thursday, depending on the high wind warnings and if the local streets are flooded to stock the machines with the newest releases they have.

robbie

Hopefully Warner Bros will lose a fortune in this act of a stupidity. Fact of the matter is that 99% of movies aren't worth owning. And certainly not at the price that they're charging. That's why I'm with Netflix in the first place. Based on the deal I have, it only costs me 50 cents to watch a DVD so if it's terrible it's not big deal wallet-wise. All an extra long wait for a Warner Bros movie to show up on Netflix does is make me forget it was even made. So if they're trying to bankrupt their studio and help their competitors, they're doing a great job.

the retarded Warner Brother

just means it's less likely I'll see their movie and the inevitable sequel. This tactic only works with the impatient youth who can not wait for the movie to be available elsewhere.

In all it shows the lack of intelligence at Warner Brothers. They think imposing a delay on people and pissing them off is going make them go out and buy a movie. We'll good luck WB. Just a shame Batman is on WB, all the rest of it is crap.

Bob

It actually means that pirating is going up.

Nikolai

Hollywood studios are falling into the same trap as the music and cable industries. Competition and alternate sources are clearly not the problem. It is the crappy, less than quality content that is being produced. It does not matter how long someone has to wait for a movie. No one wants to pay or waste time on a loser.

I personally purchase a movie if I completely enjoyed it the first time, and it contains untold enjoyment watching it time and time again. Not because I have to wait a certain time period for it. Hollywood studios should applaud Netflix and similar outlets for allowing viewers to decide if they want to purchase a movie after a first watch. I immediately purchased '13 Assassins' and 'The Man From Nowhere' based solely on how much I loved them, and viewed them on Netflix, not because of an imposed punishment.

Also, unless I viewed the original and I know the sequel is going to provide just as much entertainment, I will not purchase a movie sight unseen. Making the consumer wait isn't solving the issue. It's a panic move by those unwilling to give us quality entertainment. There's a reason certain cable stations have the high viewership and ratings they currently possess. They create content we love. Not rehashed, warmed over re-treads.

S

Robert Emmerich hits it on the nail.

Last time Netflix promised the 28 day window was an awesome fucking win for consumers. This time they didn't even try to pretend this was a good thing. It's not and other studios will be quickly following suit. And why shouldn't they? Netflix is now their go-to company for taking it up the [censored].

If I was at the other studios not only would I be planning to force a 56-day window on Netflix, I'd be trying to figure out what else I could get away with. Because it seems Netflix has only one answer for the studios these days: Yes. Yes. And more please.

Crow550

It's quite simple. If you don't like it. Don't support Warner. Simple as that. That means if a New flick is coming on the Big screen that you wanna see. Check if it's by Warner first then at least wait the 56 days if you must see it.

Don't double dip for there re-releases like the upcoming Harry Potter Special Edition set. (Remember they pulled all the films for a year to get people wanting this upcoming set too.)

Otherwise as long as you keep giving them power (money) they will keep up these ridiculous New release delays and make them even longer.

There is plenty of Entertainment out there to enjoy.

Don't let these companies bully you. You vote with your wallet.

If you don't like something then spread the word and cut em off. They feed on your hard earned Dollars. If you're unhappy then starve em for better service. You have the power, not them.

You did this with Netflix. You can do it with Warner too.

Jonathan

I get all of my new releases from my local public library. There's a branch 1/2 mile away from my house... So, no worries here. I use Netflix for the stuff that I can't find at my county's library.

the troll

dish network will get you

David D

The question I have is how much control do the studios have over the distribution of their DVDs? If they can pretty much get distributors and retail shops to limit or even ace out rental places like Netflix, Blockbuster, etc, then these "agreements" are largely spin.

If you start seeing studios pulling away from deals and simply enforcing delayed release windows in favor for VOD or streaming through their own sites, then these rental companies pretty much have to take what they can get or find a new means of offering an alternative.

WakkaWakka

In my opinion, it's not out, until it's on netflix, so the delay doesn't matter. Delaying it will never get me to buy the DVD or PPV the movie.

Troll2

I can't wait until the movie companies finish ruining their own business like the music industry did.

Higher quality, cheaper, more independent movies, and wider distribution is what will happen when they finish ruining their own business... Hopefully, they take companies like Comcast and Dish Network with them.

Miss Information

@David D - There is so much consolidation in media (just like everywhere else), Warner has lots of control over a few distributors. I would guess BB, Redbox, and Netflix buy most of their discs direct from WB, so WB would certainly notice if BB or Redbox tried to buy discs from distributors outside of the 56 days. Arguably this should be challenged in court, as technically it is legal to buy from a distributor (at a higher price), but WB has more control than they should, and will likely "force" BB and Redbox to buy from them after 56 days. Wal-Mart doesn't have near enough shelf stock to handle the number of discs the "big three" end up buying, and distributors don't want to risk WB not selling to them if they serve as a middleman prior to 56 days.

RJM

Life will go on.

I will not....ever....buy a DVD so after the extra 28 days, it will be life as usual.

A good time to take a month or two off DVDs and stick to streaming only.

My only fear in that is not being able to keep up with and manage my DVD queue because it disappears. Thats got to change.

Or I could use a different account while having one on hold. (But thats a pain I shouldnt have to have)

James B

The main reason I joined Netflix years ago (before streaming existed) was to save money. I had bad experiences with brick and mortar rental places so I never used them. I was essentially buying DVDs that I should have been renting and ended up with some major buyer's remorse on several occasions.

Netflix was my way to see lots of movies but keep my costs low. I still buy DVDs and now Blu Rays of movies that I love, but only those few movies and never before I've actually seen the movie.

I bought so many DVDs back in the day that I'm sure people like me who wised up are part of the sagging DVD sales that Warner is trying to bolster with this extended release window restriction for Netflix.

It won't make any difference for me. If it's a movie I'm going to buy then I'll buy it regardless of the 56 days. If it's a movie I haven't seen yet then I"ll wait until it's on Netflix.

the troll

piss and moan

Nate

Is TWC still connected to WB at the corporate level? Thought I read somewhere they were spun off... Either way, TWC requires cable to get ESPN3 (Only ISP to do so). Warner Music Group pulls their audio from Youtube clips when the vast majority of studios will just put an ad on the video and now the movie arm makes this move. They will nickle and dime you to death. Crappy Crappy company.

BoB

They're just delaying getting any rental income for another 56 days; as I will not buy instead. I'll wait and make them wait 56 days to get my rental $$$s.

apc

I wonder if this move means that the 28 day waiting period was very effective, or not effective at all?

Nate

apc - I can't find a link but I remember reading that the 28 day window was needed because 80% of a movie's lifetime sales come in the first 4 weeks. That's where they got that number from. If that's the case this move will only affect a fraction of a movie's sales.

Travis

Laughable, I can wait 90 days for a new release or go to Redbox. I have not bought a DVD in ten years.

The Littlest Winslow

Well said, FR. Looks like some people will just have to start pirating Warner Bros. movies if they want them that badly. What a slap in the face this all is to the Consumer...and I don't blame Netflix one bit, really. If I have to see a movie that bad, I'll go to Redbox. If Redbox agrees to this...I'll wait. I will NOT buy a Warner Bros movie due to this delay unless I truly love the film and have already seen it.

Greg

Let's see, I can wait 56 Days to get a new release from Netflix, or I can wait 56 days to buy it, at which time can probably find a used copy for at least half the cost of the new on on release day. Either way, Warner Bros looses. Warner Bros needs to wake up to reality, because that is exactly what I will do. Guess I will have to wait another 56 days to see J Edgar since they distribute Clint Eastwood movies. Too bad for Clint cause he will loose money too!

Abdul

i suggest netflix to improve their service

Barbra

I'm hungry :D can anyone feed me? :(

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